This message is addressed to the dear, godly friends and workers of the fellowship that has been called the truth for about 125 years. It is also a message that the corrupted and perverted friends and workers, and those who have hidden the perverts, should consider. It is written by me, ex member Dale Gardner, who was put out of the fellowship, more than 35 years ago, by the head overseers of the eastern United States, because I had exposed the fornicating, raping, child molesting senior worker, Ira Hobbs. I long to again be in fellowship with the Godly workers and friends. I still consider them my people. But only if and after they totally separate from the horrid sexually perverted and corrupted friends and workers, and the concealers, that are presently so deeply ingrained in the fellowship. The leaven that Paul described, has worked very deeply in our fellowship.
Have you read the account, in the book of the Judges chapters 19- 21, from thousands of years ago, of the horror of the death of the Israelite concubine, raped to death by the Benjaminite sodomites? I plead to you dear and Godly friends and workers of the fellowship that you would read and consider that horrific account that God has chosen to leave, as direction, for how to respond when sexual immorality is present among His people. As you consider this horrific account, please remember the words of our Saviour to two of the churches in Asia. His statement was directed to the churches, not the fornicators in those two churches. He said, “I am against you, because you allow fornicators among you”. Do you understand that our Lord and Savior is against us, the fellowship that calls ourselves the Truth, because this fellowship has allowed fornicators to remain among us for the 125 years of its existence? It is reported that William Irvine declared that he started this fellowship as an experiment. He was a fornicator himself, fathering an illegitimate child, with some reports that he continued in sexual perversion. How can it be that a corrupted and fornicating overseeing ministry has been able to so control the fellowship, hiding the fornicators, and freely raping and molesting wives, sister workers and children in this fellowship that calls itself the truth? It is so obvious that the time is long past that the friends should have been awake, and put out the fornicators as quickly as they were discovered. God gave directions through Paul and John as to how to separate fornicators from the church. Have we thought seriously about why we did not do this? We need to start thinking and then take action. The action must be much more than just talk and words. What a horrific mess we are in because we have been sick and sleeping for 125 years, allowing evil fornicators and overseers to control and put us to sleep.
It is long past time to take action! What is the action we should take? There are many thoughts and ideas on this question, and a number of actions are happening. This is very good. However, to date, it appears that there are extremely limited results as far as forcing out the corruption, including the leaders of the corruption. It is now very difficult, and maybe impossible, because of how long and deeply the leaven has corrupted so many in the fellowship, both workers and friends.
It is so important to remember and understand that God has always taught to separate good from evil. That separation began as recorded in Genesis, when he destroyed all the evil people of the earth in the great flood. The Bible gives us a number of accounts of how God Himself, at times, separated good from evil. Other times God gave His help as His people took action to separate from evil. Then there are times when God left it up to His people to choose to separate themselves from evil. But He has made it plain that He is against the church if they do not keep separated from evil.
Some in the fellowship believe that this can be accomplished by forcing the perverted workers and friends out of this fellowship. Others believe this is now impossible because of the depth and breath of the leaven. Some understand that all of those, including both friends and workers, who have concealed and hid the fornicators are also guilty and responsible for the horrid damage to thousands of women and children in the fellowship. Oh what a mess we have allowed, and it will continue until the separation is made. Once this separation is made, the evil workers and friends will continue in their perversion, but no longer able to molest and rape the godly friends, workers, and children of this separated fellowship. Some believe this is the only long term effective answer to the horror presently allowed by the fellowship.
A very important but difficult consideration is the matter of our history of believing and calling our fellowship the truth. Jesus has made it clear, as previously referenced, that He is against us because we have allowed fornicators among us. It is very obvious that our group is far from being the truth. We can never be the truth, but we can become the Church of God as Paul called the Corinthians. Jesus is the Truth. We can become a healthy body of Christ. If we do our part, He will help us with what only He can do. So please do not think that by separating from the present corrupt, fornicating, concealing ministry, that we would be separating from the truth. Instead we would be separating from an evil that God despises. We can then become a church of believers that Christ will rejoice in, The Church of God, as Paul so beautifully called the Corinthian church.
I had thought that I would compare and contrast the horrific account of the wake up call and response, found in Judges, to the wake up call and response, to date, that God orchestrated with the death of Dean Bruer. It now seems this should be saved for another time, as this present effort has become so lengthy. If anyone thinks such a contrast and comparison would be helpful, please let me know and I will try to present a helpful account.
May God move our Godly friends and workers to understand the necessity, and be willing to take the actions, to separate from this horrid evil, and then continue in fellowship as a Church of God, no longer calling ourselves the truth, but followers of Jesus, who is the truth.
WINGS Note: Dale’s letters from 1988 and 2008 are available at https://wingsfortruth.info/2023/07/08/35-years-ago-to-taylor-wood-and-the-church/
The letters exposed long-standing abuse within the fellowship, but there was insufficient response from the ministry.
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Dale Gardner, who “exposed a fornicating, raping, child molesting senior worker”. You say that you long to again be in fellowship, but only if and after they totally separate from the “horrid sexually perverted and corrupted friends and workers, and the concealers, that are presently so deeply ingrained in the fellowship”. Dale, what you are asking is that a bowl full of red jello, all mixed together with a bowl full of blue jello, be separated. That not only won’t be done, it can’t be done. A much better option — find a good Bible based church in the area you live. They are there. You will be much happier! Stop trying to separate the jello.
Hi Standing Bear,
I would like to discuss your reply with you, but only if you are willing to give us your name. You have my name, Dale Gardner, Colorado Springs, Co
Hi Dale,
try looking up 2x2s Incorporated on Youtube. I am quite certain that is who Standing Bear is.
Satan deceived as an angel of light. There appears that many feel no one will know. How Satan deceives. Open your mind and hearts to God and Christ- separate yourself from the evil. Follow where God leads you- the path is filed with love and joy.
Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
I feel sad for you, Amen. Your comment indicates that you believe the fornicating, child molesting ministry should be allowed to continue their fornication and child molestation. I do wonder how you can have so little understanding. I would be happy to discuss this with you in detail if you are willing to tell us your name. I suspect that many that read your comment are deeply worried about you. You need help.
Do you mean that you think the fornicators should be left to continue molesting and raping women and children?
There will be fake Christians in any Christian group, you cant do much about them, but if a Christian brother or sister willfully continues with sin that is made public, thats another ball game all together, you need to do what God say’s, excommunicate them! 1Corinthians 5.In the case of criminal activity we need to report it to the authorities, and excommunicate them!!
So you’re saying leave the sex abusers alone until the harvest? In the meantime, keep allowing them access to victims? No. Not a good analogy or recommendation. Tares don’t harm the wheat. Abusers harm God’s children. There are people who can be left alone if they are not causing harm to others. But we are talking about abuse, and criminal activity. Not the same at all.
I appreciate most of your responses to the parable of the tares. I certainly agree that when Jesus responded in the parable to his servant He did not mean to let predators continue in the fellowship. When He said let them grow together I would rather think he was warning us that early on we won’t be able to determine the tares from the wheat. Perhaps when He speaks of the harvest He is talking about when the tares have come to a head and it becomes obvious at least to those affected? I know in my experience I have seen some pretty sickly wheat that showed lots of fleshly properties, but with time have seen them come back to a full life in Christ. I could have thought that they are just a tare so gather them out. Maybe that is Jesus warning to us?
Dale: We hear your desperate “Struggle and desire”. Truth explains is satan!
Truth: Where does God lead? Everyone we know, feel God led right into the “fellowship”:; the Only One True Right Way!
You state: satan deceived as an angel of light.
What will enable anyone to NOT be deceived ‘again’ by this “angel” cast out of heaven who wants to be like the most High: Isaiah 14:12 – :14?
God through the “prophet” Isaiah ‘prophesies’; :1 – :3 You read THAT Promise of what God desired for His Chosen Nation of Israel. God’s desire and exact plan and purpose HAS NOT CHANGED for His Nation.
What will enable YOU or ANYONE from being “Decieved BY the ‘angel of light’? Ephesians 6: Oh, yes; this armour of God is “what we Know!” Yep!
WELL:, NO you do not!
Read verse 6:17; YOUR DEFENSE AGAINST the wiles of “satan” IS
1. the helmet of “salvation” and 2. the sword of the “Spirit”
IS the “WORD of God””! AND “religion” is satan’s device!
Standing Bear; You have good advice: but satan is Busy. He deceives!
The plan of God written – beginning in Genesis 12 to Abram through Acts 12: to Israel “does not change”! Jesus in His fleshly ministry after 400 years of “silence” from and of God was “according to the Law of Moses” that God required! That very “Government” in God’s Holy Temple demanded crucifixion. Jesus arose. The grave could NOT hold God, the Son.
Was God “defeated from God’s plan for Israel??” Absolutely NOT!
Jesus HAD REMOVED that government of Law of Moses: Matthew 21:43 Jesus had been preparing a New Government for Israel!
Matthew 16:13-:19. Peter knew :15 who Jesus was: “the Christ”(their messiah)YES, the Son of the living God. That was required of Israel.
Matthew 18:1-:22 is more record of Jesus training the 12 to be the government.
Matthew 19:28 Jesus promises the 12 even in the 1000 year Kingdom of Heaven on earth
when Jesus sits on (Davids throne) “throne of His glory”(the 12) will sit on 12 thrones: WHY? Judging the 12 tribes of Israel.
WHY do you need to understand THIS???
Because you think you can follow Jesus ministry and the 12’s ministry
to Israel of their covenanted, promised Kingdom of Heaven on earth.
You cannot! That is: The Wiles of “satan”!
The remainder of the chosen, sent 12’s ministry of the “Promised Kingdom of Heaven on Earth” to Jacob’s seed – the 12 tribes of Israel: was ‘cut off’ for a season! UNTIL – Romans 11:25 – then :26 -27.
What did those 12 “apostles do?? Read letters of Hebrews through Jude. Those ‘apostles’ continued to “encourage and Shepard” that “little flock” who HAD BEEN SCATTERED: James 1:1 – Peter 1:1
That Nation was blinded — Romans 11:7-:11. Paul explains.
Isaiah 29:10 warned those 12 tribes and prophesied.
Romans 11:11 – :13 explains “why”.
Result is Israel’s Gospel=(Good News) was put on HOLD until: Rom. 11:25.
Then God will again turn to that Nation of Israel with their Gospel=Good News; :26-:27 will AGAIN give them the Good News of His Covenant.
WHAT will enable YOU or ANYONE from being “Deceived by the angel of Light? Ephesians 6:11-12? :13 take unto you the whole “armour of God”!
Your salvation :17 and :17(b)Your “sword” of the Spirit IS “word of God”!
You must read “word of God” given to apostle Paul. Romans – Philemon.
Understand what the Risen Christ revealed to Paul. Read Ephesians 3:1-9.
Understand Paul’s “but Now” Romans 3:21 – :28.
The 2×2’s are NOW trying to latch-on-to Paul’s Gospel of God’s Dispensation of the Grace of God. That is impossible IF they are following Jesus Earthly ministry of the Gospel to Israel of their Earthly Kingdom.
Paul’s Gospel is to the Gentiles and is a Heavenly Promise. Ephesians 1:3; 2:4-:9; 1 Thessalonians 4:13 – :17: (:16 – :17) YES, the Heavenlies!
I understand your frustration, but I have a different solution. More than 20 years ago, William Lewis was wreaking havoc within the family, and teaching against the word of God. I was being attacked every chance the older workers had because I would not comply (nor would my husband). We had meeting in our home and I know they wanted to take the meeting from us and “put us out”, however, the overseers of all the western states and Canada knew me, and always asked for time in our home (which really ticked Taylor and all his cronies off). So, they didn’t dare to make that move against us. After one particular ugly incident where Taylor summoned us to meet with him and Kenyon Coleman (I refer to him as the devil – but, technically they both were being led by the devil). Taylor let Kenyon start in, and he blabbered on about ‘’mercy’ and that “God will honor whatever they allowed in mercy” and then started quoting scripture…but, not without leaving specific words out of verses (which completely contradicted what Jesus had said). So, I’d had enough of his Tom-foolery and asked him to stop lying. He told my husband to “get ahold of his wife”. So, I stood up and grabbed a Bible that was sitting on a bedside table and opened it to the exact place that Kenion was reading from, but with ALL the words. Taylor said, “read that again, please “. I did. He said, do you believe then that (he named a specific couple) are going to hell? I said, I believe what Jesus said about that subject and there’s nothing you can say that will change my mind, or God’s for that matter. The verse that Kenyon was quoting earlier about you all getting away with allowing things and God accepting it, is baloney. If God said “no”, that’s exactly what he means. Taylor said, “what about mercy? I choose to err on the side of mercy!” My reply: “it’s not mercy if it’s a lie”.
Kenyon told us to leave – and he was quaking in anger, Taylor asked for his Bible back (I didn’t realize it was his), so I apologized for using it without asking, and Taylor thanked us for coming. Oh, Tom Nussbaum had stepped in while I was reading back to Kenyon, and he hadn’t said a word , but followed us out and apologized for what we’d been through. I have no regrets, and it just gave me a deeper understanding of a little of what Jesus faced with the Pharisees and Sadducees. William showed up a couple days later for Shelby convention , and I got home, immediately sat down in our living room and asked God to “please, stop that man, somehow”. William made it back to Texas, had a heart attack and died. God said “enough”, just like he did with Dean Bruer. The point is, we are told to pray believing that there will be an answer. I had no specific request, just that the nut would be stopped.
If you are being honest about the reason you were told to leave, I would revisit that with an Elder. The workers do not have the authority to remove someone from fellowship who is standing with scripture (not taken out of context). The ministry was given the order to feed, heal, and send out unclean spirits, and bring Peace into our homes. Not to hide unclean behavior, flex their muscles to humiliate people, and drive His children away, and take advantage of anyone. Yes, I know Ira is a terrible human, and should NOT be attending any meetings. Not that he can’t be forgiven, should he ever confess, and choose to allow God to rule in his life (which I’m not sure he’s ever had). But, he would be willing to not attend anything (meetings of any religious group nor anything else in public where he’s unsupervised nor where children would be present)…because that’s the type of love for others that would come from truly being one with the spirit of God. Currently, he’s not exhibiting any signs of that.
Now, the answer isn’t to leave, or go off in another direction, the answer is for those who want to be right with God, to get serious about understanding the scriptures, and digging deep, so we can stand against the devil when he raises his ugly head. I was recently told that “the gospel has prospered under these great leaders”…I just laughed and said, “no, the Gospel prospered, in spite of evil men”. Took a few minutes for that to sink in, but it eventually did. No matter what man does or says, God can still do His work! He’s used evil Kings, down to a Good Samaritan helping someone he didn’t even know. He’s used Presidents of our country to engage in wars to open up closed doors, and is daily using sinners like he did Abraham (who didn’t always seek God’s help, neither did King David), etc.
I can tell you that here in Washington, Darryl has taken advice, and is seeking to adhere to the scriptures in what he’s implementing. I know in our house, there’s been much seeking and knocking , and asking/begging for God’s help. I know many in Washington and California personally , that are doing the same, and many others I have no doubt are too.
I don’t care what people say about “how this started” because God raised up a sinful man that had the willingness to come to America with His word. He’s still raising up those He can use to further His Kingdom, because in the end, He wants a family.
Be honest, and pray desperately, with faith and belief that He will hear your prayers. These old ugly men who claim to be “overseers” aren’t going to live forever, but beware, the devil will send more wolves! The Kingdom is as strong as ever, but the way that’s been sold is not what Jesus taught. So, again , read to understand, pray for yourself and the Kingdom, and to keep the Spirit of God…and don’t let this ugliness harden you!
I agree with all you said
Thanks Dale! But I doubt if you are going to see much of a cultural change in this fellowship.I think a better option is to find a Bible believing fellowship or have unsanctioned meetings with the honest heart’s that are leaving the 2×2 cult.
No Dale, I didn’t say that child molesters or anyone that does evil should be left in the fellowship, once we know what they are doing. I simply posted Jesus words on the tares that the enemy has sown in the fellowship. I believe that the parable was given to us by Jesus for our understanding of what we are up against. Many of us came into this fellowship believing that everyone in this fellowship was a child of God. Jesus warned us that is not true, there will be and are tares amongst my children, and it will be so until the end of time. Hopefully we will be more diligent in spotting the tares amongst us in the future. But if we have learned anything over the past while we should have learned that the devil and the tales he has sown are pretty hard to spot and almost impossible to convict. I think we can all conclude that the devil is a busy little fellow. some Some on this site are very vocal that because we have discovered some of these tarts amongst us that we should just throw out the baby with the bath water. Just go down the street and find another church. If that church has Gods children in it, from what Jesus said in this parable it will also have tares.
Dale, I’m so sorry you got put out for trying to expose an evil worker! I wonder how many other workers are in your shoes? I’ve heard and read of many. You were put out about 5 years after I “professed”! Had this been dealt with correctly back then, or from the beginning, we might still be able to be in fellowship, but with the way it was, has and is being dealt with I just don’t feel I can trust even the so called good and innocent ones. I’m not sure there are any that really haven’t KNOWN what’s been gone on for decades.
One of my good ex 2 x 2 friends says “when the roots are evil, the fruit will produce the same.” The tree needs to be cut down and I do believe God has had enough and is in the process. Yes, we mourn for what we “thought” we had, but like others, we have found some very wonderful, Bible preaching preachers and even churches that love and worship God and His Son, Jesus Christ through the Holy Spirit. The worship is unlike anything I ever experienced in meeting. The people are so dedicated and their love so encouraging!! (I feel there are some very wonderful people that go to meeting but they have no idea what’s going on or has been going on because they don’t WANT to know and can continue on in ignorance. What do they say? Ignorance is bliss!!). At least this has been my experience. We let our Sunday morning meeting in our home go in July after almost 40 in the fellowship. It was the hardest thing we’ve ever done, but both my husband and I felt God was moving is to do that.
I’d love to visit with you more on this if there was a way for us to connect. I give Wings permission to give you my email so we could continue this conversation .
Dale we had a similar response from the overseer’s when we tried to bring a change in 2015. Just 2 questions- how many perpetrators are acceptable? how many women and children are an acceptable number of victims?
They sent a cousin-female minister- out from Texas to explain to me how wonderful the Ira Hobbs CSA/SA situation was handled and how wonderful the overseer’s were handling CSA/SA. Once again no real concern for victims.
If 1988 would have been handled correctly, think of how many victims could have been “spared”. I had just professed in 1983. I want to think I would have left then instead of 35 years later.
Thank you for trying! How frustrating to not be heard and you are still trying! I think you should find a good Bible preaching church. They are out there. We have several we listen to on line that have taught us so much in the 4 months we’ve been out. Insight for Living, Turning Point and Grace to You. Check them out.
Thank you, again, for trying.
That’s why we severed ourselves in 2015. For the last 8 years we have enjoyed the mentioned sights and Allen Jackson. We appreciate our Father’s love and Christ who brings joy and peace.