Ray Hoffmann:
Ira Hobbs: (overseer of Texas)
- Letter sent out by Ray about Ira in May 2008
- Ira allowed to attend meetings with children until June 2023
- Ray sent out CSA resources in 2008. Overseers claim that they didn’t know some of the facts and are only just now learning but we know that isn’t the case.
https://wingsfortruth.info/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/rayhoffman-2pp2.pdf - Ray praises Ira’s spirit and says “there are too many allegations to be dismissed and disbelieved” which were only discovered when an officer investigating put out a notice for victims to come forward. Ray only wrote this letter due to the amount of victims that came forward.
- Jean’s story: https://wingsbts.proboards.com/thread/244/jeans-story
Leslie White: (Overseer of Colorado)
- Ray needed Laura (rape victim) to report to the authorities before he could remove Leslie White from the work.
- Laura raped by Leslie in 2003 at Elizabeth preps and reported in 2012 . Only then was Leslie removed from the work.
- Ray allowed Leslie to speak in his gospel meetings in recent years until April of 2023.
- Laura says: “From all I’ve heard Leslie has continued his behavior and because of Ray Hoffmann’s refusal to put him out of all meetings and Ray and other overseers’ refusal to write a letter and notify the church (the people) of Leslie’s behavior and lack of repentance, his behavior has been allowed to continued and his abuse of women and young girls has been enabled.”
- “In 2012 Ray Hoffmann looked me in the eye and promised and assured me that Leslie White would never be in the work again, yet in April of 2023, 11 years later, it was discovered that Ray himself was letting Leslie speak in gospel meetings. When asked why, Ray answered; “Maybe not the wisest choice”. ” Laura.
- Cynthia Liles (P.l) says: “I noticed online there were a couple of comments suggesting White was actually still in the work in Maine. I learned in late March or early April of 2023 that Ray Hoffmann indeed had let him back in the work by letting him speak in gospel meetings.
This was confirmed with Ray in a phone call.” - https://wingsfortruth.info/2023/06/24/victims-of-leslie-white-speak-out Refer here for all of Leslie’s inappropriate behaviors. Leslie spoke very inappropriately about sexual matters in gospel meetings and engaged in numerous inappropriate behaviors. Ray moved Leslie around but never removed him from the work.
- Ray made the comment to the mediator’s father (see Barry Barkley) “If not for the sister worker (Laura), Leslie would still be in the work.”
- Ray has also stated (April 2023): “Well it’s tricky because a lot of times victims who come forward are mentally unstable and while we feel for them, it’s hard to know what to do.”
Barry Barkley:
Leslie White:
- Present for orgasm comment and later denied it happened
- Met with divorced woman and was informed of Leslie’s very inappropriate questions (wings for truth link above) and did nothing about it with a mediator present in 2009.
- Barry later told the mediator of another report from a young sister worker that felt uncomfortable with Leslie’s comments to her in front of young brother workers.
- Barry made multiple comments that he would not “surge ahead of God” when victim and mediator asked that Leslie White be removed from the work. Mediator warned Barry that there would be more victims
- Mediator and her husband were removed from field email lists. Bruce Shaw eventually told them they were not welcome to take part in meetings until the mediator had sought out Leslie and forgiven him.
- Barry was Leslie White’s overseer at the time. (IL)
- Note: Mediator was unnamed on the victim’s letters to Leslie White, but she later posted her story on AFTT and C&C so we know she is Beth Laswell Boelter.
Dale Shultz:
Robert Corfield:
- Dale knew of Robert’s CSA in Saskatchewan and moved him to Montana instead of removing him from the work.
- John Foster says: “Those who also knew of Robert’s crimes and failed to report (Dale Shultz, primarily) will also likely face criminal charges. Dale was horrible to Robert’s primary victim and needs to be held accountable for that situation and many, many others he has handled horribly and with utter disdain for victims.”
- https://wingsfortruth.info/2023/05/31/robert-corfield-circumstances/
- Robert Corfield’s victim recently disclosed on the Advocates for Truth FB page that he was physically assaulted by Dale for disclosing his abuse to a friend.
John VandenBerg:
- John was moved back to Arizona/California from Mexico after CSA happened in Mexico that Dale was aware of.
- The P.I team says: “Since January 2023. it has been brought to our attention that at least ten workers knew of this particular crime and participated in the cover up. Dale Shultz was instrumental in preventing the reporting of John Vandenberg’s crimes to law enforcement.” This is referring to an allegation against John of CSA of a 14 year old girl in Mexico in the early 2000s.
- https://wingsfortruth.info/2023/05/l8/john-vandenberg-clarification/
- https://johnvandenberg-theworker.org/2023/05/16/mexico-incident-and-application-of-matt-18-and-implied-consent/
Milford Town Hall: (Ray and Barry present) Rays problematic comments follow:
- “The next person to speak stated that they wanted reassurance that all allegations would be reported and people in the area be informed.”
The moderator tried to bring the mic to Ray Hoffmann to respond to this and Ray motioned the mic away and did not respond. - Ray zeroed in on one report. He painted a picture of the reporter being untrustworthy. He said “I’m not aware of anything I’ve been involved with CSA. If people can prove that I knowingly moved a perpetrator to another field I will happily step down, I will happily step down, I will go to jail, I’m not afraid of jail. I don’t think it would be wise to step down off the suggestion of one person.”
- Ray referenced James as an overseer and that James had the last word. He also said that someone has to make the plans and organize. He then said that he used to be Catholic and he definitely won’t be going back to that and that he didn’t like the hierarchy.
The person who asked said “there is a hierarchy of the friends, elders, sister workers, brother workers, older workers, and overseers.” - Ray said that it’s important to have overseers who are led by God and to manage, otherwise every worker would just be doing what they think is right. (Pointing to the sisters workers) he says the sister workers are submissive in their place and are happy to be. Maybe you would like to speak on that? (Motioning for a sister worker to speak).
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Dale physically abused the victim. I can believe that. I was in the work from 1986 to 1996. Fake was a senior brother and then overseer while I was in the work
In 1990:1991 I talked to Dale about my older sister companion (my second time with her) who was very abusive verbally emotionally and psychologically. She was abusive towards younger sisters and friends she deemed beneath her. Dales response was to turn it around and it was me who had the problem. I was astounded. A few years later he had no option but to deal with her. He listened to a sister who was/is more elite than me. Picking and choosing what they want to believe and who they believe
I want to make sure regarding this post. This can or can not be shared?
I do not want to share if this is considered confidential.
Anything posted here is public.
Thank you for clarification. 👍
Why has the letter from Graham Thompson to Wayne Deane not been added to Wings?
Thanks Wings, this is well done, helps to have the facts condensed on a timeline.
This is amazing. Thanks for sharing. We all need to know and we all need to share what we know so that we can win this fight to rid our fellowship of evil.
Ray Hoffman, Barry Barkley, and Dale Schultz all knew of criminal activity and either did nothing, or did shuffled people around that were involved in child sex abuse criminal activity. Ray Hoffman, Barry Barkley, and Dale Schultz are nothing less than criminal king pins running a crime organization. Recently it was exposed 13 workers were involved in the sex abuse cover up of a child in a western state that ended with the child being suffocated by a pillow while the sexual criminal abused the child. The child now has brain damage. The 13 workers, included Dean Bruer and down the chain of command to lesser posititioned workers, both women and men. Thirteen workers in ONE cover up of the sexual abuse of a child! This is criminal activity and therefore, a criminal organization. The king pins rule, however, and Ray Hoffman, Barry Barkley, and Dale Schultz are there at the top. These three guys position the workers, hold the cash from the estates handed over by sincere professing widows, and control the abuse reporting, or the lack thereof. And, these king pins are going nowhere, until the almighty God’s wrath can no longer be held back. Which will happen. The Great Bible, the word of God, has many examples. Man’s pride, arrogance and betrayal does not last. These king pins shall see that. They will also see the fury of God. Great websites like Wings For Truth are beginning to expose the serpents underbelly to the masses.
@Louis
Yes you are right! I read the 37 Psalm through a completely different lense these days. The wicked are in the ministry.
Yes, our organization (and yes, it’s an organization) is run like the mob!
I still don’t get why you Americans don’t go to the law, instead you go to the workers.
1. Go to the law.
2. Inform the workers and the church together.
If a worker killed your child, you sure as hell wouldn’t go asking the workers to expose it, you’d go to the law.
Where are you getting the information that Americans wouldn’t go to the law? Many of us would and esp. since March 2023
These three need to go. Hopefully one day to a jail cell. But real change in this fellowship will only occur when these three are no longer in the work and excommunicated.
It’s obvious to me and it should be obvious to everyone else that God isn’t leading this ministry. I really would love to hear an argument that says He is. I’m hearing horrible analogies and excuses of “God using this time as a special season of cleansing”, specifically from our overseer in CA. This isn’t “special” for anyone, mainly the victims.
First off, this all means that God allowed the abuse to happen. Secondly, he then lead the ministry and overseers to cover up the abuse. God and Jesus did not and can not lie. So that means the words of Jesus about “whoever offends these little ones, it’s better a millstone hung around the neck and dropped into the sea to suffer a horrible painful death (no mercy).”
I keep hearing and seeing people say “they just want to trust in God during this process”. Truthfully, that’s doing nothing. God “allowed” it. God “told” the ministers to cover it up. And now it’s a wonderful special season of cleansing to get rid of the “deadwood”. The same deadwood that the overseers have collectively known about for decades. You’re donating your money to this.
I hear people say “this hasn’t changed my faith”. Faith in what? God? The church? The workers? Don’t be so dogmatic. It should change your faith in all three. God allowing this doesn’t change your faith in God? “gOD WoRks In MysteRiOus waAAAys!” That really is mysterious to me to be an overseer and knowingly keep your sheep and the children of your sheep in a pen with not one wolf, two, three, four, but too many to count.
These sins are unforgiveable. I guess Jesus was talking to our ministers and overseers when he was speaking about millstones around their neck. Jesus didn’t mince words. He didn’t forgive everyone like we hear. Maybe there’s no forgiveness for you. You’re not sorry. You’re sorry you got caught. Despicable. Those of you who aren’t upset and are actively defending these monsters should be guilty of association. We’re upset that our children have been violated. You stand for that? You get mad at those of us who are angry? And that’s all you can glean from these conversations. “Wow, you’re angry….” Gaslighting fools. Keep sleeping.
AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Distortions and lies.. Some of us actually know the servants that you are trying so hard to tear down. We’ve seen how many sleepless nights they have spent in prayer, receiving guidance directly,from the heart of God on very difficult matterss. You blame the messengers, but you truly hate God’s decisions that they are conveying. You despise the standards of the kingdom and want to live in your worldly ways, subject only to your own authority. Read Numbers 16 to see what is coming for you.
“You blame the messengers, but you truly hate God’s decisions that they are conveying. You despise the standards of the kingdom”. rxew, with all due respect, you really think it’s God’s decisions to cover up child sexual abuse, sexual abuse of adults and spiritual abuse? Furthermore, you really think that this is the standards for God’s Kingdom for child sexual abuse and these other abuses are able to abound, AND then be covered up? No, I am very sad to say these goings on are all to real and are not distortion and lies. I wish it really was all distortions, but it is not. For you, maybe it’s difficult to believe and understand because you have not encountered the horrible aftermath of an assault by a worker, and then the attempt to cover it up. Good for you. But, I have lived it and I know. The abuse was criminal, and then the cover up, or attempted cover up compounded the abuse. The cover up attempt makes the victim out to be the monster, while the evil predator then moves on to their next victim. It is something I would not want anyone to go through, and nobody should have to experience. And, no, I am not, “liv(ing) in your worldly ways, subject only to your own authority”, as you stated. I have even taken the further step, and have been baptized for a second time. This last time it really meant something, and it was not by a ” worker” and it was not for a “way”, or religion. This time it was a symbolization of cleansing of the spirit through God’s divine forgiveness and a new life through Christ’s death, burial, and resurrection. This time it was real and with real meaning. rxew, I hope you can pray and find peace. Also, please watch those precious children and keep them safe! And also, please don’t cover for ANY ” messenger”, just because you think that you should.
Thankyou that needed to be said.
I do believe there are sincere workers, they need to speak up. That will get them put out no doubt, but God will take care of them, this is where we can help.