From: Carson Wallace [email redacted]
Date: October 2, 2023 at 12:25:46 PM
Subject: Clarification
Just want to clarify: the message that I sent this morning concerning Hazel could be sent to the Church or kept until anyone asks. By the way, this allegation was not CSA.
Your brother,
Carson
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“….By the way, this allegation was not CSA. Your brother, Carson”. After all of the misconduct of sexual abuse, child sexual abuse, spiritual abuse, excommunication, shunning and other unbecoming behavior and unGodly actions Carson Wallace writes, “by the way”? “By the way — this wasn’t CSA — but like all the other secrets, I’m not telling you because you don’t need to know. Only I need to know.” Secrecy. Sweep it under the rug. What’s not seen and done in the dark — that’s fine, because nobody can see it. Was Hazel abusive to the companion worker? Did Hazel have an affair? Was Hazel a closet drunk? Did Hazel spiritual abuse people? What behavior did Hazel have that brought about this abrupt end that Hazel agreed to? Why the secrecy? Why is Carson acting like a school kid, having a secret, but you can’t find out what it is? Gotta keep the out side of the cup clean! Who cares about the misconduct that goes on inside the cup?
answern the well structured questions and restore trust in leadership for all of souls that are seeking restoration of faith and trust
Carson’s letter to the Romans: She did stuff and stuff was done but no raping and molesting.
Je suis intéressé
Ditto to so many comments above. Allegation means it is illegal, but let’s make sure none of us know what it is. I guess if it’s not CSA, but still illegal it’s nothing to be concerned about??? Really Carson???
Does anyone know if guidelines are already established for such allegations or even CSA or SA in this area and what they are?
Transparency can help people feel an effort toward building trust and more safety in your area. Please help with this Carson. We saints need honest, open servants.
No..Trust rebuit…. Allegation does NOT mean illegal. It usually means UNPROVEN accusations..
just one correction ,,,an allegation is an accusation yet to be proven. In this case, what was the accusation & was it an accusation of an illegal act(s)? Or perhaps an accusation of immoral or ungodly, unfriendly acts(?) Just the devil’s advocate here, (no pun intended), but if the latter is the case, then perhaps there is no need to make it public. Perhaps if it is an unfounded accusation of something ungodly or immoral but not illegal (as Carson’s response suggests) then the way to keep it from escalating causing further embarrassment to her & the church is to just step down (not unlike what happens in the corporate world (or politics for that matter)
I do hope the leadership and the directorship is not teaching the disciples that they need to push this theory of UNPROVEN malarkyness. It is what all the religions of the world are pushing. And we dare not push the same theories as all the worldly churches.
But do I have this all wrong? I think I may have. From what I saw a few weeks ago at a packed special meetings hall, I am getting a sense the mass of the congregation is encouraging the directorship to push the UNPROVEN malarky concept. So much encouragement. And encouragement is good, right? All good as we say. Gotta be positive. Positive is good. Positive people are leaders. All is well. Nothing that cannot be fixed. Just gotta believe. Have faith. We can un-prove anything.
And to ‘Trust Rebuilt’? I know that seems like a nice thought. A nice idea. Makes sense, and we do hope at times in some situations that trust can be rebuilt once it is broken. But most times it does not really work that way. Especially in times when it looks like the Clean Party has no real interest in building anything again in the relationship. This trust will not get rebuilt – the Clean Party will never stop preaching that they are the Clean Party. And in one way or another, they will ‘prove’ it to people. They will need to un-prove some things, to prove others. With God’s help, we can un-prove things. Sucks to be those that got offended. We will formulate who is the accuser and who is the brethren in each matter. The charm offensive has worked well in the past.
One thing I think is unproven. And that is all the ships of religion on the sea of what they all call the holy sea. Well actually, they have most all been sea worthy to this point in history, so in that sense they have been proven. But today seems like another kind of day. All the ships bows are converging. They are all bowing to a spirit or force …that spirit working studiously and fervently in earnest trying to stamp out the flames that appeared in the ships. And little flames on ships are not good. The ships captains knew that what was good for the ship would be good for the passengers and crew. Not saying he was wrong in that sense.
So going back to the specials, the room was full as other times, but I did feel a sort of somberness. A bit of guardedness. Some smiles that betrayed some otherness behind the smiles. Maybe a bit of wariness. I do think, there are more people pulling the depth sounders out of their pockets in secret. Maybe some looking over the deck railing, looking for some flotsam from the ships. Something maybe that they can get ahold of if the need arises.
But there seems to still be this directive from the wheelhouse. And maybe it is only because of encouragement from the passengers. Maybe the captain and crew really are worried, but they need to put on a face of unworriedness, for sake of the passengers and crew. The directive is, stay the course. Keep the power on the propps of these ships. Gotta keep these propps cutting one way. Steady on the wake. And hope and pray one of these ships converging on the Light does not have a brainy idea to tack a hard right at this time. It will clear the dance floors lickety-spit though. Hope the pianos are all bolted down. And the piano man has crazy glue on his seat.
Reminds me of George Poole one time speaking at Almonte convention about a thousand years ago. Said he decided to bake a dish of macaroni and cheeze at preps. He kinda got distracted with one thing and another and then remembered the dish in the oven. He rushed to take it out and it was a bit unrecognizable. He said it was shortly after that that crazy glue was invented. As one person said one time about George. When George dies, I want to get ahold of his bible. He always found something in it that no one else found. Not sure why the poorly worded message in all the religions at this time is for the people to unfind the book of Revelation. Its crazy for sure. It seems the ships are all glued to a slippery slope. Not sure the ship’s steerage have much say in the matter any longer. It will be put in the heart of a few or maybe nine to stay the course. And maybe be put in the heart of one or more to tack either hard right or hard left. The religious concept of what a good fishing trip looks like might be getting turned on it’s keel. It is looking like most of the crew and passengers of all these ships are waiting for a more convenient day to profess amazement. And the ballast of all these ships? Arrr Billy! Just watch what gets thrown overboard first. It says in the bible to dump the wheat first, right? No? Maybe it depends where in the bible a person is looking.
I am sure the Lloyds of London are very glad and thankful they never got asked to insure this fleet of ships. They must be very thankful all the religions decided to be self-assured with all their vessels. All the floods and fires and storms have been painful enough for them. Hard to find a spiritual actuarian these days. Thankless job. But I do perceive one that is understanding dark sentences. But he is torn; torn between what he sees and what is the will of the people. Looking like the will of the people will win out. Not sure he has much say in the matter. Hard right. Heavy on the right. Frig! The left is saying they are right too! Flip it is a confusing world.
Just a little note to all the directors of religious enterprise. I get a sense that people are saying, especially the younger ones, if the directors can do whatever they want with impunity, then we will too. We might have to go to Cambridge and have them tweak our religious slogan’s meaning of ‘free-for-all’. Story time at the library anyone? Why on earth do we love the big wigs on the one hand, and despise them on the other? Religion has got very confusing to me. Maybe the spiritual makeup is putting me off. The lipschtick seems to have been over-rated and applied a little too liberally in the religious world. When a person sees it, ear to ear seems a bit funny. Starts off with a bit of trauma to the senses though. Just have to work through the stages. And look past the stage propps.
Hey Kelly! Thank you for the comment. It was good. In my mind it was good. And calling ourselves the devil’s advocate is good in my mind. It guarantees the religiously minded will not listen or read or think about it. A mass flocking to the gate seldom found right now would kinda give me the heeby-jeebies. But I am seeing a bit of a buildup at the gates of the gated communities. Their screams of peace-peace seems to be falling on deaf ears – or not being heard over the din. ‘Whose kids are those rascals anyway’ they holler? ‘I wish those children would just go away and stop rattling the gate’. ‘Their empty bellies are not our problem’ they say. I am not so sure the caretakers of the gated communities are not a wee bit worried. The book ‘Paradise Lost’ is one man’s reflection of why man was put out of the garden. The book of Revelation is another man’s vision of why they were not allowed back in. I suppose preaching about the devil’s purpose makes it look like I am advocating for him. So-be-it. As the old saying goes, the religious diehards can pinch me with a pound of salt. Or do I have that wrong and it is the religious diehards will pound me with a pinch of salt? I suppose it is whatever die hard means to people.