Darryl …. And all concerned,
We too feel it’s best to leave everything in the hands of the Authorities. It’s unfortunate that this original abuse problem was not taken to the authorities 20-years ago when it was first brought to the attention of the responsible servants. If this had been done correctly, we would not be dealing with this problem today. I talked to Scott Porter a couple of times last week. He shared with me the decision that was made 2-years ago by Jim Price, Richard Harbur, and Scott when these “abuse issues” resurfaced again with this man’s four Granddaughters. As I listened to Scott’s reasoning and the decision that would be made between Scott, Richard, and ultimately Jim as the responsible older brother I noticed once again the danger of trying to manage these CSA cases without education & training. This is why it is being stressed by trained professionals “If You See Something, Say Something …. And the first step is taking it to the Authorities within the first 24-hours“. This applies to all of us …. Both saints & servants.
Scott told me that when they found out about the “CSA” with the four Granddaughters the first thing they did was have a meeting with the parents of the Granddaughters and it was a meeting filled with tears and sadness. The parents admitted to the abuses and pleaded ——- “That This Would Not Be Brought to The Authorities“. Scott, Richard, and Jim promised not to take these now known CSA issues to the authorities. I must STRESS this is the beginning of a “Sad Case“ of trying to Manage “Child Sexual Abuse”.
This “Sad Case” continues as these three brothers go to the San Jose area of Ecuador and confront the Abuser [TP]. These brothers even visited the town of San Jose and talked to many in that town, and many expressed how they knew of the “Evil” that [TP] had committed on his own family. We must remember as studies of “Sexual Predators“ show that the average number of Victims a predator will abuse is between 100 – 200 in his lifetime. We must not fool ourselves—- he most likely has Victimized & Traumatized hundreds of children in the San Jose area.
Could this number have been drastically reduced? Yes it could have if it would have been dealt with in the correct way 20-years ago when [B] (TPs Wife) first separated from him because he raped his own daughter by tying her to a tree and putting a machete to her throat. Again —— let’s not fool ourselves “He would have Raped all His Daughters” …… Multiple times. What advice did LeRoy Lerwick (Overseer in Ecuador at that time) & Max Bowman (Overseer now in Chile) give to [B]? They advised her “To Forgive Him” and return to her home. Again, this was the sad and very “Wrong Example” of trying to manage CSA”. [B] listened to the advice of LeRoy & Max, and she returned to [TP]. When she reached out to my wife Judy 8- months ago she poured out her heart with deep regret that she ever returned to her husband [TP] …… if she would have never returned her four Granddaughters would not have been abused. Scott, Richard, and Jim had no part of that decision 20-years ago —- but they had a big part in the decisions they made 2- years ago when CSA was reported to them concerning the four Granddaughters.
In listening to Scott this past week he told me he regretted not taking the Sunday Morning Meeting out of [TP]’s home. I asked him “Why didn’t you report this to the Authorities” and his answer was “We promised the family members we would not report — this was the agreement they made with the family members”.
I asked Scott —- “So what did you decide to do”? Scott’s answer was, “We decided the best place & safest place for [TP] was for him to remain in his home area among the people of San Jose …. Where they knew his problem, and the danger he was to the community and there they could keep an eye on him“. Jim, Richard & Scott were all in agreement with this decision and they even allowed [TP] to continue to have meetings in his home and partake of the emblems. All of this was known to Lealand and he allowed this “cover-up & plowing-under of iniquity“ to happen … and NOTHING was done for the VICTIMS.
I wrote a separate email to Lealand 2-weeks ago concerning not only this issue but also concerns I expressed to Lealand 8-years ago at the Olympia Convention about false doctrine being preached by LeRoy Lerwick. Yes, 8-years ago Lealand …… and you prayed about it, and nothing was done. While you PRAYED the enemy also continued to PREY on those innocent, helpless children who could not speak for themselves, and defend themselves. It’s obvious that Jim, Richard and Scott were more concerned with “protecting the Predator“ than helping the Victims. These three Servants of God allowed [TP] to stay in his “comfort zone” and continue to molest, rape, and abuse children.
What took place 8-months ago when Judy was asked by [B] to read a letter in her home meeting …. The very home she separated herself from for the 2nd time. I must stress the “letter” was not written by my wife Judy but by [B] the wife of [TP] the Sexual Predator. [B]’s one desire was to have these “wicked crimes” exposed and the meeting taken out of her home. I was a witness of her desire as I spoke to her via “WhatsApp Video” and I saw her distress and great concern, and God is my witness —- the very words I shared with [B] were “Do Not Fear, Take Courage, and YOU ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING”. I then asked my wife Judy to give [B] some comfort and she put her arms around her. All of this I witnessed and saw.
For the past 8-plus months I have witnessed the cruelty of Servants, Elders & Friends band together as a “pack of wolves“ and turn on my wife Judy for exposing [TP] as a child sexual predator …. Judy did all of this at the request of [TP]’s own wife [B]. Scott mentioned to me the friends are upset at Judy because she exposed the Victim’s Names, but when the truth is told [B] is the one who told the names of her own Granddaughters. The real concern here is not casting the stones of blame at those who were asked to help with a very difficult issue “Child Sexual Abuse”, but the focus should have always been on helping the Victims who were abused. It has amazed me during these past 8-months how no one has addressed the real problem, but they have turned the tortilla around and placed the blame on Judy, they have gaslighted her, shamed her, lied about her, influenced many friends against her, and condemned her. All of this was done because she exposed the “Predator”.
When Judy went to the authorities and told them about the CSA cover-up the authorities immediately told her to get a “restraining order” against Richard Harbur. They listen to the recording of Richard Harbur screaming at Judy ——Richard telling her “Not to Read [B]’s Letter” in the Sunday Morning Meeting. The authorities warned her to be careful of the “Abuse of Power” and the emotional, physical, and mental abuse she would be facing. Judy & I would see this “Abuse of Power” over the months that followed. I want to remember that the “Abuse of Power” is not just what we hurtfully say and do, but it’s also what we NEGLECT to say and do. NEGLECT is seen in covering-up and plowing under the un-repentant sins and in this case ABUSIVE CRIMES of Child Sexual Abuse. Why do people in places of great responsibility do this? It’s all done with the hope that it will just go away. But it never goes away until people confess their sins & forsake them —- then they find Mercy.
You see —- “NEGLECT is not a MARK OF GOD’S ELECT‘‘…. But here in this case we see the fruits of Scott, Richard, Jim, Lealand, and Ray’s ACTIONS. They all knew about this since it first surfaced 8-months ago, a long time before Dean Bruer’s letter was written and what did they do? NOTHING —- until Jim Price took it to the authorities a few weeks ago. Should it have been taken to the authorities years ago? God will be the judge on that great day. I told Scott during our visit last week that he was wrong in how he handled his part in this CSA problem. I also told him —- “You did what you were taught to do, but what you were taught to do was to COVER-UP for the IMAGE OF THE MINISTRY”. This action has been “the great revelation“ that God has been bringing to light since Dean Bruer’s letter was first exposed. We are now seeing hidden abuses that have been covered up for decades. The abusers have been Servants, both brothers and sisters, Overseers, Elders, and friends. Today I heard of 15 new cases. This problem will not just go away —- God has stretched out His Mighty Hand, and No One can turn it back. God’s Judgement is starting first in the HOUSE OF GOD.
I told Scott last week —- “Your Actions are not about whether your name is still on the Washington Workers List, it’s more about how you will stand on the Judgment Day and whether you hear from God ” Well done thou good and faithful servant”. I told Scott there are things he could still do, and letters he could write to clear things up. I want to remember the power to change comes from God, not from Men. Good moves us from within —— and God wants to “MOVE US to fulfil all RIGHTEOUSNESS, but if he can’t MOVE US, HE WILL REMOVE US”.
Judy & I have prayed many prayers for the needs of the kingdom that exist at this time. Our prayers have been filled with both Joy & Sorrow …… sorrow most of all for the Victims who have suffered so much, and to this day are still shamed and condemned. Our prayers have also been filled with Joy as we see God’s Mighty Hand reaching down and opening the “curtain of the hidden things of darkness“. We have felt the “Light of Life Shining“ during these dark times. Our faith has not been weakened, but contrary wise STRENGTHENED and INCREASED as God has answered the prayers of many of His Faithful Saints and Servants.
You men are in our prayers,
With All Due Respect—- Charlie Habner
This letter was written almost one month ago but I never received a reply from Darryl Doland, Jim Price, Lealand Broughton, Rob Newman, and Ray Hoffmann. I reached out privately to Ray Hoffmann over 2 months ago but all I got was silence. Just recently I read the letter listed on “Advocates of the Truth Facebook” from Scott Porter concerning his involvement in these CSA cases.
My heart felt response to his letter:
It has always been our hope that servants like Scott Porter, Richard Harbur, Jim Price, Lealand Broughton, Rob Newman, and Ray Hoffmann would “STEP UP” and write an honest letter and be willing to truly repent for the bad choices they have made in the past that have contributed to the “COVER UP” of CSA problems in Ecuador. I know we will either “STEP UP” and make things right or we will “STEP DOWN” and justify ourselves, make excuses for ourselves, blame others for our bad choices, and seek to hide and “Cover Up” the truth about our own poor decisions & actions. It will always be about our Spirit, Words, and Actions that will either help us to RISE above, and overcome the Evil around us, or we will FALL to the weaknesses of the flesh, and we will unrepentantly apologize for our actions. The motive behind your letter speaks loudly that you are only seeking to win back the “Trust” you have broken, so once again you can be in favor with men. Not once have you truly cared for the Victims, and because of this my heart is deeply grieved. The message you have written has been — “I have SINNED yet Honor me before the People”.
God forbid that I should cease to pray for you —
Charlie Habner
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Don’t be surprised if the 5 brothers you sent copies to have lawyered up. Them not saying a peep is not by accident.
The right thing for all who knew and did nothing or covered it up should be to step down. Including Scott. His apologies are too little and way too late. Victims DO NOT get a do over!
Hey Skip!
Thanks for having enough interest to reply.
I believe your first paragraph is dead accurate.
My wife Sheri and I had open homes with meetings in Ecuador in the Amazon and Cuenca in 2013 and 2014.
When LeRoy Lerwick left for the States, Mark Huddle had a replacement with strong Spanish language skills in mind. He could not believe JimPrice who had less Spanish skills and had recently shot himself in the foot ELK hunting, would be hand picked (no choosing by Lots here) for Overseer of a country where STANDARD fare is a pair of 14” tall mud boots for the many Fields in the rain and mud. Mark told me BARRY BARKLEY demanded, the new Overseer would be BARRY’S call. (That made sure BARRY did not lose ANY POWER in Central America, even if there was clearly a better choice and Ecuadorian friends would be compromised.)
The MAIN POINT here is, Charlie and Judies letter may be dead accurate, but the letter should go to BARRY BARKLEY, absolutely not DARRYL DOLAND. And, check the workers lists for Ecuador; was he ever a senior brother? In England they would call Scott Porter a Flower Pot, one that sits on the platform and has nothing to say or do the entire meeting. The cabal tells flower pots, what to do or go home. I don’t want to go down that rabbit hole tonight. Just readdress the letter to Barry Barkley. He wanted the power. He got it. He knew everything going on. See how Barry handles
his power. WE already know. The five guys attorneys need to know this. It is a BIG DEAL. Again Skip, thanks for your interest. God is looking for those who will help. Get the letter sent to BARRY BARKLEY, not Darryl Doland
Thank you, John! I’m glad you responded to this, you and Sheri having been in this country. You would have seen first hand how things were.
FYI , this letter was a response to Darryl email about Scott 👇
Wayne, Brian and I are ‘looking after’ the area Scott is in. There is not an appointed overseer here, right now.
Darryl
If anyone is needing a quick response, just know that Darryl is getting hundreds of emails every day, and there is no possible way for him to respond to everyone that writes to him…no matter who huge a problem is. Because this thing is exploding all around the world, because so many have been attending meetings, but NEVER, or rarely, allowing God to affect their own hearts and lives, both in the ministry and in fellowship/worship meetings. If they were allowing God to do His work, they could not possibly do these kinds of things! So, instead of attacking, how about we pray desperately for those in the ministry to have the Faith, Love, and Strength to do the right thing, and expose those who are predators! In love and kindness to the predator, we remove them from things that would tempt them from reoffending, and from causing their victims to be re-triggered by their presence. Just because a predator asks for forgiveness, that doesn’t mean they get to be back in fellowship. Plus, if the victim forgives, that doesn’t take away the hurt and triggers that continue to happen, so in love and care for them, we would never re-expose them to known predators! Victims have the right to feel safe and loved/cared for. Predators CHOSE to be evil and allow evil to rule them, so, they can work on making things right with God – or not, on their own. You can’t fool Him!
Do you have Jim Price’s email? Please. I live in Texas and have know him over fifty years.
Jpflint@gmail.com
1 (720) 560-5388
Don’t these men care about their own salvation?? They have shown no repentance no remorse. Just empty words. Some letters sound like they are written under duress and unwillingly. They are not truly sorry. Saying they are ‘trying to understand’. Really. Have these men never read the Bible -Gods Word? I find it unbelievable that these men have not stepped down and out. What are they holding onto til the death?? What else are they hiding??? Hmmm
If these men were truly repentant they would have the decency honesty and integrity to step down and out. Therefore I cannot help but think they are hanging on in desperation because of something else they are hiding. Remember if it’s in the world it’s in the kingdom. There are absolutely repugnant activities in the world. Are these ‘brothers in it too??? One day we will find out
Also , FYI John and Sheri , Ray Hoffmann is the person responsible for South America according to Rob Newman.👇
Dear Judy,
Thanks for your understanding. I think Ray Hoffman would be the one to talk to about concerns in Ecuador. And with your email today to Ray I think you have let the right person know.
By “false doctrine” of LL are you referring to his teachings about divorce and remarriage? Because that abuse of power and blatant misapplication of scripture by the west coast is a HUGE component of the widespread abuse in this fellowship.
Ecuador is the only country in South America that allows people who are divorced and remarried to be in full fellowship. LL is a large reason why that is in Ecuador. That is why Charles and Judy feel that LL is a false prophet and are against the servants in Ecuador. LL gave his life for the Ecuadorian, Anon.
Jaime, I think you perhaps are misunderstanding what Charlie & Judy are really against. They are trying to rid the work of those who choose to allow abuse, and when it’s brought to the attention of those in authority, it should be immediately investigated by the LOCAL AUTHORITIES (police), with everyone being honest and not hiding/covering things up “for the sake of the kingdom”. Whether we like it or not, workers from bygone eras were wrong in allowing anyone to hide criminal behaviour (which is what Child Sexual Assault/Sexual Assault is). Those families/victims my feel ashamed to the point that they don’t think they want help right now, but as those children grow older, they will resent you, and the workers, and anyone who didn’t go against their wishes and fight for help. I know, I’m speaking from personal experience.
I’m not sure where you came up with the idea that it is a misapplication of scripture, to not allow people who are commiting Adultery to have a part. It was Jesus in Matthew 19:3-11 that let his people know that those who participated in such would not be accepted. So, the ministry on the west coast is simply adhereing to the words of Jesus. Jesus said of divorce that Moses allowed it because of hardness of heart (Matt 19:8). As long as people keep a hard heart, there won’t be any work done there by God. The East Coast has no scripture to back up their chaos. I know, I lived back there for 10 1/2 years and the workers there even tried to leave words out of verses and change words to make them say whatever they wanted (Kenyon Coleman), and when we were summoned and he lied, I took Taylor Woods Bible from the table and opened it up and read the ACTUAL words, which completely contradicted what Kenyon was trying to convince us of. I’m glad he’s no longer in the work…talk about a wolf in sheeps clothing!! I’m still boggled by why parents allowed him to have their daughters cell phone numbers (any girl over 12)??? Grooming much???
Sorry. I have not heard anything about KC not being in the work. Did I miss something? Thanks.
The bible allows for divorce and remarriage, in the old and New Testament. You have to study it and you will see, you need to do that and then you won’t criticize.
Wrong place for this discussion, but important that people understand this as divorced and remarried people are shamefully abused by people who have no understanding and no charity. God does not punish the victim.
Please go to the app and read the divorce and remarried tab! You have a lot to learn!
I don’t need an app, or man’s opinion about the subject. I have Jesus words. Which will God’s standard, because He gave Jesus the words to speak. I have lived in the South, I know the verses the workers are trying to use to justify this sin (Adultery), and they either take verses out of context to do it, or try to use scripture that doesn’t apply. I’ve even had a worker pretending to read verses, and I knew he wasn’t reading them in their entirety (he turned purple with rage) when I re-read those verses aloud…in their entirety! Because he was leaving out words that changed the meaning of what was read! Don’t be fooled by men! If there was a loophole, I would have found it…I have studied this subject and prayed for answers for over 30 years!! God keeps showing me that it’s never been ok with Him, and never will be. He’s the only one people should be worried about being right with!!
As someone who grew up in this religion I am completely horrified by the lack of response of the leaders. Are they not aware of the trauma inflicted on a child who is abused? Do they understand what this type of trauma leads to as an adult? This whole religion needs to be investigated. I suspected things were not right from the age of twelve. From the abuse to the management of finances. I am horrified that Ray Hoffmann will be an overseer in Canada. These religious leaders will never be allowed in our home again!
My name is Jaime Pizarro Velastegui, the elder in Guayaquil who told Judy that she wasn’t welcome to come to meetings at my home. It never was because TP was exposed. It was because Judy exposed the victims when they didn’t want to be exposed. Some of the victims and families meet in my home. They feel betrayed, manipulated, used, and hurt by Judy. They are afraid of her and don’t want to see her. So I felt that I needed to protect them and give them a safe place. I told the servants what I was doing and they said it is your home, you have the right to do that. It was never about TP!
They should feel used. Judy and Charles are using this family’s crisis to advance their own agenda against showing grace to the divorced and remarried.
Anon, you are right. Look, it is interesting and sad to see that people who do not know us, talk against us. Who lives here? Who are with them? Who can see their pain? The victims here are like my own family. Who could feel the pain and sad they have? Who respects them? Who takes into consideration their feelings? Do the victims want to see or even talk to Carlos and Judy? Not at all. Nothing. We are from the coast of Ecuador, Guayaquil and Manabi, people who have tried to help each other. But, it is easy to talk, easy to criticize, If Carlos and Judy and whoever feels like helping, shouldn´t they take into account the victims? Do we care about them? Show it, don´t just talk. And finally, if you ask any of the victims here, you would understand how they have been used.
And besides as you have mentioned, Judy and Charles are using this family’s crisis to advance their own agenda against showing grace to the divorced and remarried.
Al parecer las reglas se aplican diferente para siervos y entregados. Que hace un siervo de Dios comentando en esta página tan “aberrante” ?como ustedes la llaman. Que hace un siervo de Dios atacando a una mujer “inestable”? No nos han enseñado ustedes a no mezclarnos con el mundo? Nada de tv, vestirnos discretos, cuidar redes sociales, PONER LA OTRA MEJILLA, evitar conflictos, esperar la justicia de Dios, etc. Lo único que vemos aquí es que el espíritu de Dios no vive en usted.
Sr Carlos and Sra Judy, maybe you haven´t received an answer because you haven´t told the truth, you have made up the story, and what is more, you have offended and hurt those victims more than you can imagine. I sadly see how you Judy and Charlie Habner have basically used the victims as you have wished, without taking into consideration their feelings and suffering. Your only and single purpose is to reach the workers and push them to leave the work. Additionally, the victims are in absolute disagreement with everything you are doing and told me you do not represent them in any single way, as you have not shown any respect or consideration to their suffering, instead, you have done horrible things to the whole family, and you haven´t stopped. It seems to me that you do not care at all for them, or you have no idea how devasted they are by your wrongdoing and insensitivity.
Jaime Pizarro you should be ashamed to make any comment such as the one above. Maybe you were forced/encouraged to say something. Whatever it is you should be ashamed that your name is recorded here and in heaven as standimg up for a man that sexually abuses his children and grandchildren! You should be ASHAMED that this brave lady did what you, or the workers in that field, or the freinds in that meeting did not do. She stood up for what is right and what is Good. She stood against evil and darkness. How confused this fellowship has become. DARKNESS is now LIGHT, and LIGHT is now DARKNESS. God is surely grieved.
Ashamed? It is very clear, that hate the truth. All I have said is absolutely true. I invite you to come to Ecuador where I live. Shame on you for defending false statements which you have no idea about, and a place and people you don´t know and clear you do respect.
She did not stand up, she only caused sadness and hurt the victims.
Ashamed? It is very clear, that YOU hate the truth. All I have said is absolutely true. I invite you to come to Ecuador where I live. Shame on you for defending false statements which you have no idea about, and a place and people you don´t know and clearly you do NOT respect.
She did not stand up for what was right, she only caused sadness and hurt the victims, and left them devastated.
That’s understandable, it’s sad that all of this happened. However, TP should be in jail for life. I understand Judy may have crossed a line in exposing the victims who wanted to remain silent. But TP should be in jail for life if he’s molesting those closest to him, there is nobody he isn’t willing to fix his eyes on. Something HAD to be done.
TP should be in jail for life but he never will be. The US has a huge issue with actually putting offenders behind bars, how much more these small, openly corrupt countries that have no money? It’s just a fact of life in those counties, the authorities never end up being the help they should be, the perpetrators get violent for being accused, and the victims suffer more. This ought not be a discussion about what ideally should have happened, rather, what’s the best thing to do when future situations like this arise?
The fact is, the authorities don’t come to the rescue. Almost never, someone usually has to die for something to happen, and even then there is no guarantee. So whoever is there, usually a victim or family, a few friends in support, have to manage the problem without the government established authority, you can’t wait for a corrupt, lumbering system to actually activate, it most often never does.
It’s almost a guarantee that in some such county somewhere around the world, a family, friends, and workers will be left to deal with and manage a terrible CSA offence, on their own, for they will most likely not have any government authority in their side whether they report or not. For that is life in most of the world.
You don’t understand the legal system or the corruption in Ecuador. TP is unlikely to be in jail at all! He will be free to punish those who reported him. His family is afraid now. Yes, he did evil things. That is not in question. But this did not happen in the USA. Getting the abuser locked up to make the world safer for his family is not a likely outcome.
The workers failed to use caution or bring in outside resources 20 years ago when he was “coming to meeting” because they believed the safest way to deal with this situation was to let God change him. Naive? Absolutely. Ignorant? Unfortunately yes. But the man is a charming sociopath with no conscience and the workers were not educated to recognize that.
They were manipulated so the abuser could go on abusing. A pattern we’ve seen many times lately. These abusers are masters at grooming… Not just children but parents, workers, friends, counselors, even law enforcement.
But make no mistake… This whole situation is still full of manipulation and abuse. It’s just not the ones you think. All of you appalled about the CSA, make sure you take notice of the REAL goal here… To enforce the Tenniswood rules about divorce and remarriage on the only country in south America where those people have been shown grace and accepted.
You are right. I agree with you. TP should have been sent to jail, a long time ago, but God knows why this didn´t happen, he knows. Do you know the first event occurred before they knew the truth? Well, all I can tell you is that the family could have done anything as they were and are adults. Why blame workers? Is that their task?
I don´t want to get into this because I respect the family and I understand all the suffering they have been through. Judy and Carlos don´t have children so they don´t understand the pain, sad and tough times they have been through.
Do you think nothing was done? Or does it mean that if what has to be done is what Judy and Carlos want without taking into consideration the victims? Aren´t we supposed to support, help, understand, and mostly care for the victims?
The victims have received the support and love of their friends and workers, and their confidence and trust is in God.
Jaime, is that the spirit of Christ? close the doors to the surrendered? This is what the Pizarros have always done. That is what you have been doing for a long time, abusing the power and authority that has been given to you. You are not an elder, you do not represent Jesus and the work of God on earth, you do not show the spirit of the lamb. Because you approve of the sins that God hates, because you participate in those same sins… clearly in the Bible it is written: but let your yes be yes, and your no be no, so that you do not fall into condemnation.
Revelation 3:15-16 “I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were cold or hot! Thus, since you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will vomit you out of My mouth.”
An elder with so many years in the church should have the cleanest testimony of him and be impartial, always seek to be a pacifist, not only when it suits him and not defend the indefensible and the sin of others. All of you have been silent during all these years and there are already 3 generations and more raped, how many more are you going to cover up?
In addition to all the abuse and damage that Leroy Lerwick caused (to mention one of the many who have abused his position) with his false doctrine, among many other things, how he forced many truthful women to take antidepressants to be subjected to the truth and abuse. Do not move the waters because many may come out to expose all the damage that has been done to the Ecuadorian people. Abuse, approval of sins, homosexuality, rape, abuse of authority, forcing many to take medication to be drugged and submissive, mistreatment, etc. It is not fair to all the victims of all the abuse that these servants have caused during all these years.
Leroy Lerwick left Ecuador as if he were a savior and as if he had been a great servant, when he was NOT, but the consolation we have is in God, who will pay each one for his actions.
Mercy and comfort from God to all and grateful because there are many like the Habners who have had the courage to expose all these injustices.
Sincerely, Aleket Gomez
Aleket —— our hearts ACHE for you and for ALL the years of suffering you have experienced in Ecuador. It’s very interesting that Jaime is “ speechless “ when it comes to your experience as a “ Victim “ of the “ “ Abuse of Power” under LeRoy Lerwick, an BY many of the other brother and sister workers. It’s obvious that Jaime is also deeply engrained in this “ Power Structure “ of Abuse. I feel so bad for many of the friends who were raised in the fellowship who no longer attend because of the “ Hypocrisy “ amongst the workers, elders, and friends. Judy & I recently had a visit and a meal with some of them in the Guayaquil area and they will not be a part of this “Corruption & Hypocrisy “. I wish I could shared the group picture we took with them. I will never forget the fellowship we shared with them and their children. As stated Jaime remains “ speechless “ to your post and he continues to attack Judy and speak evil of Judy & I. I made four trips to Ecuador this year and worked remotely from there for 2- months. I sat back and watched with unbelief at the “ Abuse” by Servants, Elders ( Jaime) and friends who later told lies to hide CSA. I’m thankful for the mighty hand of God who is revealing the hidden things of darkness. Gods Hand will not be turned back. We are so sorry for all you have suffered from this Wicked “ Abuse Of Power”. We thank God for your faithful stand for the TRUE TRUTH.
Charlie Habner
A= ALL
C= Children
H=Helping
E= Eachother
You, Jaime, who accuses Judy of having exposed the names, are a LIAR, when you know very well that one of the victims was rejected by her fiancé when she confessed that she was raped by her grandfather Teofanes, and the boy could not bear the burden and despised her and canceled the wedding. And all the people found out about this, delivered and World es knew it too.
The victims were also exposed in the letter written by the rapist’s wife and you have the cynicism to openly lie without fear of God, just to cover up the wicked (the workers) who have been participating in that sin. Being an elder you should condemn this type of situation, but on the contrary you defend the workers and try to hide the truth from all the people of God. It disgusts me to think of this situation knowing the many times that I was at that villain’s house with my little daughter, risking her integrity because “supposedly” there were workers safeguarding our lives and our souls.
FYI
Teofanes, the one you defend so much, also raped his aunt Martina, he destroyed two homes, not to mention three, including his own home, and all the workers knew it and did nothing, and they’ve been like this for years… without doing anything. They only act for convenience.
And that rapist of daughters, granddaughters, neighbors and his own aunt. He was also like you, Elder of the church, and he had sunday meetings in his house, until Judy had the courage to force the workers to stop this and remove the emblems that are sacred to us, from a house of sin, from the house of satan as they call it in that town, where the wife of that evil one no longer lives, and even so he continued with the meeting and with the emblems as if nothing would happen, without any repentance.
Aleket …. We must remember we are not fighting against “ flesh & blood” but against the rulers of darkness and “the Spiritual Wickedness in High Places”.
The Accuser & Abuser of the Brethren — Calls Evil Good and Good Evil . The Accuser Condemns the Righteous and Rewards the Wicked.
It deeply saddens not just Judy & I but everyone else that reads these threads that the “ cover up” and condemning , gaslighting, persecuting continues by those in places of authority (Workers -Lealand Broughton, Richard Harbur, Scott Porter all Allows it ) and by those who have been appointed Elders by this same “Abuse of Power” . Those who have exposed this “ Evil Work” have also become Victims and cast out ….. and as stated by Jaime “Hated”, hated by you Jaime, and also hated by others who you Jaime continue to abuse and seek to speak for them, and what you Jaime speak is untrue in every way. We are thankful for Jesus words, “ If they have hated me, they will hate you”. God forbid that we ever stop praying for you Jaime …… We will not go down your “ path of hate” but we will with Gods Grace and help seek to “ Love our enemies, bless them that curse us, do good to them that HATE us, and PRAY for them which despitefully use us, and persecute us”.
Our hearts ACHE for Victims such as you “Aleket” and your sister in Columbia. Those in places of Authority could have helped “ heal your broken hearts” but instead caused you even more pain and suffering by covering up for the “ Abusers”. Judy & I will do everything we can to support you and other Victims through out all of South America.
All of us will “ Suffer” but each of us will choose whether we “ Suffer for Well Doing” which is INSIDE the WILL OF GOD or “ Suffer for Evil Doing” which is OUTSIDE the WILL OF GOD. Only Suffering for Well Doing “ Has a PURPOSE BEHIND IT and a BLESSING WITHIN IT”. The “ Abusers of CSA” inflict pain and suffering on their VICTIMS in all their Evil doings —- but VICTORY is shining for the Victims of Abuse, and they will no longer be held in bondage to these Evil Abusers, they have spoken up, they have stood up, and they have “ friends all over the world “ who will not tolerate “ Abuse Of Any Kind” ….. these “ True Friends “ are Standing Beside You, and Standing With You—— no matter how fierce the battle rages On. These Wounded Victims are no longer Victims —— “ THEY are now VICTORS “.
Charlie Habner
A= ALL
C= Children
H=Helping
E= Eachother
The Dean Bruer doctrine, formerly the Tenniswood doctrine, led to much abuse since people could not be freed through divorce and still be welcome in fellowship. Single-parent homes are more vulnerable to CSA, which I’m sure Bruer took full advantage of. I always appreciated LL’s stance for victims, being the first overseer in 70 years to allow a remarried man to become an elder in Latin America. There seemed to be a big club of overseers, and he wasn’t in it as they called him a false prophet and disinvited him from conventions. However, it doesn’t surprise me that he got some of this wrong as he originally believed in the once-married, always-married doctrine of the west coast. So encouraging people to work on their marriages regardless of how toxic they were was a fruit of that – also, going to the law in Latin America is a good way to get yourself abused more (machismo culture where justice could be purchased). I’m glad he changed and became a champion for those that were shoved away and cut out of fellowship. Interesting that this couple is being accused of going against the will of the victims, doxing their whole stories. Also interesting how they are trying to align this with the “false doctrine” of allowing divorced people to stay in fellowship. I remember hearing LL say that “everyone will have to decide for themselves whether a marriage can be dissolved without dissolving salvation.” That seems prophetic now. Will the west coast succeed in tying CSA to allowing people to be divorced and remarried? I smell a rat. It is the Catholic doctrine of “once married, always married” that allowed people to abuse with impunity. Dean Bruer was the chief of this doctrine. I’m glad LL saw this and became a champion for those that needed out of abusive marriages.
*Percy was never LL’s overseer; Duane Hopkins was. Towards the end of his time in Ecuador, Duane was dividing the country up (along the divorce doctrine lines) between Percy (Leland) and LL. This would have been a nightmare, as Percy had no use for LL (to put it mildly). BB was also not a fan as he came down to the Latin overseer’s meeting where divorce was discussed and did nothing to support LL’s stance against all the overseers of Latin America. So did LL get some wrong? Yes. However, I know personally that he spent the last portion of his time standing up for those that others were trying to silence. Interesting how the attacks are now coming at a time LL can’t speak for himself.
Oh, Jaime my heart is deeply grieved for you, I feel an aching pain in my heart and it moves me to remember you before the Throne of Grace. Yes, Jaime it was you that ex-communicated my wife from your Sunday Morning Meeting because she exposed CSA problems in Ecuador. And it was you who plainly stated that LeRoy Lerwick is the only one in all of South America that has allowed remarriage in the country of Ecuador ….. your statement is true because “Leroy’s Doctrine “ has not been excepted in other South American Countries “ . But let me be VERY CLEAR to you and the anonymous “ Anon” in this thread that my visit with Lealand Broughton 8-years ago at Olympia Convention grounds concerning “ LeRoy Lerwick’s ” false doctrine was NOT about Divorcé & Remarriage it was ALL about “ THE ABUSE OF POWER” and especially the “ Abuse OF WOMEN” and the double standard for men that did not apply to Women. This all lead to the “ Abuse of Marriage “ and the sad outcome of many marriages being dissolved. I also was deeply concerned for sister workers on the Ecuador staff that were being forced against their will to take antidepressants drugs. My wife Judy who you continue to gaslight, shame, condemn , and lie about , and abuse was at one time a sister worker for 8-years on LeRoy Lerwick staff as you would very well know. Judy was one of the “sister workers “ that was forced against her will at the ripe old age of 20 to take antidepressants drugs . Judy asked why do I need to take theses drugs? I don’t need them! Her companion would say, “ If you done take these drugs then your not submitting to the Overseer”. For 8-years Judy was forced to take harmful drugs that lead to harming her liver …. all of this was done by “The Abusive Power” of LeRoy Lerwick and the control he had over the staff in Ecuador. Lealand Broughton listened to all I shared concerning the damaging affects of the “Abuse Of Power”, but Lealand never made any changes . It deeply saddens us to see Victims abused especially “ Children” in Ecuador. The above threads from “ Aleket” speaks loud and clear about a mother in Ecuador who herself suffered from the “ Abuse of Power” under LeRoy Lerwick. I’m very thankful for the many caring souls on this site and also “ Advocates for the Truth”, and “ Concerned and Connected Friends” who are behind the “ Rally Cry” for the much needed change from this damaging “ Abuse of Power” found amongst those who have been entrusted with the great responsibility of shepherding the flock. It saddens our hearts that everything changed in our relationship with you because 11-months ago Judy & I both stood up against CSA in Ecuador, we would not hid the corruption found hidden for 20-years amongst the Workers on the Ecuador staff. We also want to make it very clear that we are not set for the “ defense of the Worker’s” or for the teachings and doctrines of men but we are set for “ The defense of the Gospel” and we will gladly lay down our lives for those who have been “ traumatized & victimized” by this UnGodly Abuse. We do not seek the approval of men —— we only seek an serve our “ One Master”. Someday soon we will both stand before him and give account of everything we have said an done.
Charlie Habner
I think you need to spend your efforts changing the laws of the country, before going to a country that has little protection when it comes to women and children. Also, I’m not sure why you are thinking Broughton a good individual, he’s ok with OUR CSA/SA predators coming to preach in S.A. ?? Knowing they are predators – as in prior knowledge! He’s sicker than the predators because he’s happy offering up the children and women to these criminals!! If you & your wife want to be effective change, then leave the victims alone, and get laws passed so there’s something to charge the criminals with! It’s like the two of you don’t have a clue about the culture and customs of Ecuador at all, nor what it means to be a confidant. Just get a grip already!!
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Leroy Lerwick and Max Bowman asked Mrs Bernalda to comeback to him after he sexually abused her daughter. Teofane’s professed after a while and he abuse and sexually assaulted his granddaughters. He sexually assaulted his untie Martina .
He cause to split 2 marriege.
He was cheating with their wife’s .
People in the town call him devil and also said that all the friends that come to his house are devils .
The workers knew about all this recently and they allowed him to continue with Sunday morning meetings in his home and partake of the emblems.
The only thing that he couldn’t do was guide the meetings in his home .
Judy, You said and I quote
¨The workers knew about all this recently and they allowed him to continue with Sunday morning meetings in his home and partake of the emblems. The only thing that he couldn’t do was guide the meetings in his home ¨.
I am sure you know that meetings are not at TP´s home anymore, and he is not allowed to go to meetings either. And many more things have been done against him, but you know it too. Why do you keep lying? Why do you like hiding the truth?
Norman Nash who spent many years in the work in Ecuador sexually abused a child in whom you Jaime the ” elder ” in Guayaquil know VERY WELL because the victim talk to both Charlie and I .
None of the Ecuadorian staff in the Ministry or elders are making anyone aware of CSA .
You Jaime are part of the hidden corruption of CSA.
Please can you provide me more details on this? NN is very much freely moving around Ireland with no supervision and nobody is aware of these allegations or at least not in detail.
How can you talk about the victims from the coast of Ecuador? Do you think you have the right to expose them and continue talking about them without their consent? I feel really sorry for you, Judy, and Carlos. May God forgive your wickedness.
Now you began talking about a child who you Judy and Carlos said ¨he was raped¨ I just talked to him and he is in great pain and sadness because you have lied, you didn´t say the truth, but not only that, you two didn´t have the right, and neither his consent at all to talk about him. I personally love this victim, and it is so sad to see what you are doing.
I am from Guayaquil, born and raised here, in the truth. I met Leroy Lerwick, the very first time he came to Ecuador and all I can say is that he did his best in the will of God, helping all the ones he could reach out to, he was always a faithful worker who we Ecuadorian have huge respect and love for, and everyone remembers him and we have him in our hearts. Nothing and absolutely nothing will change our gratitude, respect, and love for LL. You can condemn and judge him as you please, but God has always been with him, and that´s the most important thing in life.
You have become abusers and predators
Justice, or Judy Habner, once again you show NO respect or care for the victims, worse any compassion to them, and quite far the right spirit. You are talking about people who are very close to me, people who are the victims and have suffered. I respect each one of them, NOT the abusers or perpetrators, and I think that you have NOT realized yet that you Sra. Judy Habner and Sr. Charlie Habner have become predators of the victims here. None of the victims want to talk to you, some even are afraid of you both, you have caused a lot of sadness and suffering to them. I am not making anything up as I see and talk to them every week, they do not want to remember anything about you, because it torments them. You have hurt them enough and caused a bigger psychological problem to them. So may I ask you Judy and Charlie, are you doing anything for them that would bring peace and comfort to them? Haven´t you harmed them enough? Why are you looking for victims to use them as a weapon to attack others and not to help them?
It is my only desire to know how to help, comfort, respect, and show care for the victims, and I think that the only way this can be accomplished is by understanding their suffering and being aware of their true feelings, and mostly leaving everything in God´s hands as we trust him. God sees and knows everything, so we should fear him more.
Regarding NN, the victim did what he felt was better, and he received the help and support he was looking for, as he knows that others are safer for what he bravely did. And once again he, the victim wants NOTHING from you Judy or Charlie H. because he realized there is nothing but evil in you, sorry to say this, but he just recently told me that, and you have no idea about the suffering you brought to him. Hope you understand that if you want to help any victim, you have to respect them, understand them, see what would bring peace to their lives, and especially show you really care for them, please.
And Sra. Judy, the fact that you do not live here, doesn´t give you the right to say that the workers or elders have done nothing here. Have you talked to the victims? I am so thankful that help and support, as well as care, have been given and shown to the victims. Ask the victims, and they would tell you. I recently saw and talked to them on Sunday morning, as I said before they are like our own family and there is a big respect and appreciation for them, as they are of great esteem to us. And the workers have shown a lot of kindness and care for them, and they are very grateful, this is what I can tell you.
Workers cover up and hide Child Sexual Abuse in Ecuador for 2 years and no body can’t talk about it .
If you do you pay the consequences.
Workers allowed the elder that sexual abuse his own children to take the emblems and had Sundays morning meetings at his home and no body can’t talk about it .
If you do you pay the consequences.
Two ex workers sexual abuse children in Ecuador 35 years ago and no body can’t talk about it .
If you do you pay the consequences.
Teofanes the elder is not having meeting at his home anymore because I wrote a letter to all the workers in Ecuador and said that they are going to be responsible if Teofanes abuses another child .
No more meetings at his home but he was invited to conventions recently, he was was going to meetings in another home were children were present .
This is the true . Also Richard Harbur wanted to put back the meetings at the elder house .
The true is told and now you blame on me.
May God do justice because you stand for evil.
Justice, I agree! Every Predator should be put out of meeting, and never returned – EVER. This is not a sin that hasn’t physically done harm to the sheep. This is a CRIMINAL matter, that can not be undone. It’s a bloodbath! Does that mean they all go to hell? Well, right now there are many who feel they should. But, when those that weren’t willing to behave in the old testament were dealt with, they were put outside the camp (never to return) or God just got fed up and opened the earth where they were and then slammed it shut with them deep in the earth, and in the new testament there were some that were also put out, because they were doing sick things; I Cor 5:1-5, and they are turned over to Satan. The answer is no, they don’t have to choose Hell, but they can work out their own salvation with fear and trembling…outside the camp, with God. God sees every heart, and if these predators ever find honesty, they can still be saved. But, never return to fellowship – ever. You wouldn’t throw a fox inside your chickenhouse, even if you housetrained the fox, because that nature is still within them, to destroy and kill.
Henoffour well said! What you’re saying needs to be sent to all workers and friends. And it seems to be the only reason I can grasp at WHY DO WORKERS PROTECT AND KEEP RAPISTS AND MOLESTERS IN MEETINGS?!? They think they are the keepers of salvation and meetings are salvation. Just put them out and work out their own salvation like everyone else.
Hear hear.said the wise ones, you owned it
thank you