Dear Merlin, Paul, Reid, Joshua and Vancouver Field Elders,
Vancouver field elders, we have been made aware of how some of you feel about us by the workers in the Vancouver area, in both written and verbal communication. According to Merlin, Paul, Reid and Joshua, the characterizations made of us by some of you, precede the decision to remove our meeting. The workers informed us that some of you consider us as unworthy of the privilege of being an elder for several reasons, one specifically that we don’t possess the “qualities of an elder”. More specifically, some of you had this concern BEFORE the meeting was placed in our home, this according to a letter sent by Merlin to one of the friends.
It is also possible that you never actually did say anything negative about us but that this was fabricated, or was it the perspective of the workers as they shared with you their thoughts about us, and you simply agreed. A case of “the workers are always right”.
There is a trait in our fellowship that we have allowed to become the very nucleus of our worship, the direction of our faith – that the workers, no matter the circumstance, justification or even how outside of Doctrine their actions are that we will agree with them – that they are the actual embodiment of God’s will and voice at any time, place, or circumstance.
Below are facts:
It was brought to our attention that in late 2022 someone in our Sunday meeting twice asked Paul Chiu to add people to our meeting, especially since a couple from South Africa had moved to North Van, live close to us and have a teenage daughter similar in age to the other teenagers in the meeting. Paul declared to this person on one occasion (unbeknownst to us) that he “will not add people to the meeting because of Leonie’s hair”. The folks in our meeting were so upset about this that they didn’t feel they could share it with us, so we didn’t know anything about this until the first week in February when we were told about the perp coverups etc.
On Saturday February 11, 2023, Paul Chiu and Reid Goodkey came to our home for dinner. After dinner Paul announced that “they are balancing the meetings” and that our meeting (our family, B&V L family; M&H W family) is being split and sent to three other Sunday meetings in the Vancouver field as of March 5th. Jeremy said to Paul that we can accept the changes but that we feel it is unwise at this time given that some of our meeting folks were in so much pain due to recent issues and how they have been handled by the workers. Paul did not accept this. Jeremy gave Paul an opportunity to tell the truth: he asked him THREE times – Is balancing the meetings the complete and only reason for this change? Three times Paul answered “yes, that is the only reason”. Jeremy asked “are there any other reasons?”. Paul answered “no”. Jeremy then said “we know what you said about Leonie’s hair to someone in our meeting”. Paul replied: “yes I did say that, but this change has nothing to do with Leonie’s hair”. Again, Paul was asked more than once to confirm this to be the truth. He confirmed it to be the truth.
On Tuesday February 14 (or maybe Thurs February 16) both Ls and Ws met with Paul, Reid and Merlin about the CSA coverups going on, perpetrators allowed to come to meeting, sister workers quitting in droves and the decision to remove our meeting. Merlin was bluntly asked if the meeting decision had anything to do with Leonie’s hair. He categorically stated “no”. He even said “I have never said anything about Leonie’s hair, for all I know it is a health or allergy issue…”
Prior to March 5th both Ls and Ws wrote to the workers and advised them that they would continue coming to our home on Sunday and we have continued with the meeting – with very rich fellowship and the certain presence of the Spirit in each meeting. We texted B&K K about our decision to keep our meeting intact stating specifically we cannot go along with the deceitful way this was handled and the lies being told around it.
News of our meeting being removed travelled far and wide with people from three continents asking us how this can be and voicing their support. Many of these people have, without our knowledge or request, written to the workers about our meeting removal. Yet we have been falsely accused by the workers of “drumming up support”. Reid, by his own admission, even preached AT us about this in a Gospel Meeting. Not a Gospel message!
A few weeks ago, in a visit with an elderly couple in the Vancouver field Reid (accompanied by Joshua), told some egregious lies about us. As follows:
- we are “drumming up support” all over the place about the meeting decision;
- they have been trying to arrange a visit with us but we refuse to meet with them.
This couple is friends of ours and shared this with us, and so Reid was caught in a lie. We wrote a strongly worded letter on June 10, 2023 which you can read below the end of this letter. Reid then set up a meeting with us for Sunday June 18 after gospel meeting. We arranged to have two witnesses, H&M W, present. Reid and Joshua were the only workers present.
Reid apologized for telling lies about us “drumming up support” about the meeting removal and he also admitted that we had never refused to meet with them, and that we had actually invited them to come and visit us. He also admitted to and apologized for preaching AT us in a Gospel Meeting based on his own false assumptions. The matter of our meeting came up again and after his apology, Reid then provided the following reasons for our meeting being taken away:
- We ENCOURAGE alcohol consumption. Encourage? NOTHING is further from the truth. The only thing is that we don’t hide the fact that we have wine in the house and offer it on occasion to guests. Leonie extremely rarely drinks alcohol. Titus 1: 6-9 is used as justification AND the “fact” that “someone” has raised the concern that we ENCOURAGE drinking. When we pushed back on this, Reid stated “well it was before my time here”. We asked for details, and Reid committed to provide the information to us. We are still waiting……..
- Leonie has short hair – even though Reid admitted there is no doctrine to support the outward appearance rules that have become so entrenched in this fellowship. Please also remember that BOTH Paul and Merlin unequivocally stated that the meeting decision had NOTHING to do with Leonie’s hair! This also calls into question the validity/sincerity of Reid’s apology as he was present when both Paul and Merlin stated the meeting decision had nothing to do with Leonie’s hair.
- AL didn’t approve of the meeting being placed in our home when he and J sold their home in West Van. Again, this is not true. A.. recently wrote to Merlin requesting (unbeknownst to us) that the meeting be officially reinstated and people be added. Would he have taken the time to write Merlin if he didn’t approve? Reid further said that “other elders” also didn’t approve of us getting a Sunday meeting at the time.
- Our reaction (spirit) when we were told the meeting is being taken away. Think about this reason for a second: “we are taking your meeting away because of how you reacted when we told you we are taking your meeting away”……
- Balancing the meeting numbers – this continues to remain untrue and illogical.
- “Some elders” have voiced concerns about us. Did you have concerns? What are they?
At this meeting Reid also informed us that from now on we will not receive ANY communications from “the workers”, that we would have to look on social media etc. to avail ourselves of any current communication to the BC/Vancouver friends. Do the workers in the field communicate on social media?
Shortly after we were informed our meeting was being taken away, Bruer-gate erupted. You all know we did not keep quiet about this. When Merlin issued his letter about Bruer having been “immoral” (rather than “criminal”) we simply could not keep quiet and you received our first communication. Contrary to the convenient narrative of the workers our outrage was as a result of the treatment of many sister workers and of relaxed and unconcerned attitude of many workers towards child sexual abuse and sexual abuse being perpetrated by workers, elders and friends and being swept under the rug by overseers and others.
Our so-called “bad spirit” is nothing more than a righteous anger towards the people that make a mockery of the Doctrine of Christ and the dismal lack of empathy shown to innocent victims and others whose lives are or were often permanently and savagely scarred by workers and others who were implicitly trusted. Ours is a righteous anger toward the evil in God’s House. Outside of being a sexual predator, a common criminal or a murderer the most egregious thing a minister can be is a liar. Anyone who is a spiritual teacher, worker, minister or a person presenting themselves as a servant of God that goes and lies to their church is an abomination. Consider Revelations 22:15. It’s disturbing that people who say they are led by the Spirit see this happening in front of them and then simply accept it as God’s Truth. Is this not making God’s Truth a lie? If we know of evil and do not shun it, we are complicit. Plain and simple.
We plead with you to consider this, as hard as it may be:
- The “Way” as we know it currently FAR exceeds the known sexual atrocities statistics per capita of the Catholic Church? We appear to be the WORST Christian group on the planet for hiding and allowing child sexual abuse and sexual abuse to continue by systematically not reporting offences to the authorities and by withholding the truth from the Friends to maintain a phony outward show.
- The extent to which child sexual abuse and sexual abuse has come out against overseers, workers, elders and friends in North America and world-wide. Many overseers (past, present and dead), workers, and ex workers have been identified as alleged pedophiles, alleged sexual abusers or good old-fashioned fornicators while in the work. We suggest you visit the following reliable information sources:
https://wingsfortruth.info/category/news/ and
https://www.advocatesforthetruth.com/updates and
https://www.advocatesforthetruth.com/open-cases . - Since March 2023 more than 500 perpetrators in this fellowship have been reported to Private Investigator Cynthia Liles.
- The victim count is now in the thousands.
- Many overseers either preyed on victims or covered up for predators.
- The FBI is now involved as a result of the sheer magnitude of this problem. It is probably a matter of time before they involve their good neighbours, the RCMP.
- Can you accept this? We cannot.
We know that reems and reems of letters to the fields and friends, apologies, policies, and the like are now seeing the light of day. It is a good thing, but much of it is simply too little too late. Many of the people writing letters, writing apologies, writing zero-tolerance policies, and conducting listening tours are the very ones that knew about the CSA and SA atrocities and either helped cover it all up or did nothing.
Have you ever felt hopeless to the point of utter despair because:
- You have ZERO prospect of waking up to a new day void of guilt and burden placed upon you by the actions of a person abusing the authority they claimed, and that made you feel like it was all your fault.
- Your parents and siblings judged you for having the gall to seek help and protection from a respected and idolized creep.
- Of feeling like everyone sees and judges you.
- You cannot calm the mind down that constantly reminds you of your tormentor.
- Your mind torments you that your family is constantly plotting against you.
- You just yearn to be free but deep down you know this torment is for life.
- Your life becomes one lived in the imagination, one of a life free of the torment. Each new day being a cruel reminder of the past.
- You constantly make unwise and rash decisions, always entertaining the possibility of a life that would be wholesome and kind, but always being disappointed.
- You live cumulatively for half your life drugged to a stupor by psychiatrists who never seemed to get it that you were abused and needed to be heard and healed.
- You were always a laughingstock of children and adults who poked fun at your ticks and odd mannerisms, the result of side effects of medically prescribed drugs.
- You see through the people that patronizingly speak to you as they would to a child or a pet because they consider you crazy and weird.
But all through this she never lost her faith in God. You have just read a little how it was for Jeremy’s dear mother thanks to being sexually assaulted at age nine by George Absalom (a most revered worker in South Africa) and thanks to parents and a fellowship so wrapped up in form that she, as a child entered a life void of hope of normality and eventually a life ruined and wracked by paranoid schizophrenia and the side effects of medication she was forced to take. Her story is far from unique.
You know who you are on this list that have said to us in the past “our blessing comes from being obedient to the workers even if we know they are wrong”. We strongly disagree. Take a moment to reflect on where that approach has taken us as a fellowship……
Your reaction to all this may be that “God knows all, and all will be just fine”. You are right, God does know all, and all will eventually be fine but right now there is wrong in the ministry and fellowship that is like a cancer. So, is this the time then to turn away and say:
I don’t need to know of this;
It doesn’t concern me;
The workers have this under control;
God will fix it, we just have to pray and have faith.
NO, IT IS NOT. Faith without works is DEAD.
The time for pretending all is fine is long gone.
Kind regards, Jeremy and Leonie
Email sent June 10, 2023 at 9.52pm:
Dear Merlin,
This letter is also addressed to Reid, Paul and Joshua.
It has come to our attention that you are spreading the word that we are speaking to people to gather support for us having lost our Sunday meeting and asking them to speak up on our behalf. THIS IS NOT TRUE. We have NOT requested of ONE single person to reach out to any one of you with respect to our meeting being “taken away”. We encourage you to ask anyone that have written you about the removal of our meeting whether we had asked them to do so.
We continue with our Sunday meeting. Nothing to take away. We enjoy it when others attend our Sunday meeting on an ad-hoc basis to add to our number.
Note the following for the record:
- With respect to our Sunday meeting, we have not gone looking for support from any person whatsoever.
- Many people have however heard of the decision regarding our meeting and have reached out to US. Many of those people we have never even met before. Most of those people have shared with us their frustrations with the workers in BC and the mishandling of issues (see 3 below).
- We have communicated the following concerns to you (as have many others):
- Handling of CSA issues and suppression of transparency. (Why is there still no general notification of current CSA investigations in BC in order that victims be made aware. Also there has been no notification of members stepping down from Merlin’s CSA committee, why not?);
- The unacceptable treatment, silencing and bullying of sister workers;
- Overseers and workers’ abuse of power;
- Suggested changes to restore trust and a healthy foundation for our fellowship.
- We have communicated with friends regarding the manner in which you, as ministers in a position of trust have been conducting yourselves. One such issue is bold faced lying and below is a recent example:
- Reid and Joshua, you have spoken to people this past week suggesting that you have been trying to arrange to meet with us and that we have not accepted this – HOW do you manage to lie so blatantly? You know that after Gospel Meeting when we greeted you at the door that we INVITED you to come to our place. Specifically, you Joshua. We were genuinely pleased to see you when you took Paul’s place with Reid and we specifically said to you after your first Gospel Meeting “thank you for a Gospel message today and please come and visit us anytime”. You know that we invited you directly more than once and you, Reid, know and heard that invitation after Gospel meeting. You have our cell phone numbers and email addresses and we have not received a single request to meet.
- If anyone of you did send requests to meet with us and if we declined or if you did not receive a reply from us: please forward the time-stamped communication to us and everyone on this letter.
There have been meetings with concerned friends in BC where you are KNOWN to have LIED and be very clear: several people present in those meetings KNOW the truth. How do you expect the friends in our fellowship to have any trust in the ministry when you yourselves don’t follow the most basic Doctrine?
Merlin, we understand that communication was sent to elders recently regarding baptism arrangements. While we had heard of it, we never received any details. We then contacted Reid by text to ask if there were recent communications and were told there was communication about baptism, but without any details. We still have not received details from Reid or anyone else. This does beg the question whether you, Merlin, Paul, Joshua and Reid consider our children as unworthy of baptism? Interestingly, our text to Reid was recent and further evidence of how there has been ample opportunity for Reid and Joshua to make contact to meet with us.
Kind regards
Jeremy and Leonie Tomlinson
WINGS Note: Certain family names have been anonymised:
B&V L family; Ls
M&H W family; Ws
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I predict the next often-played tactic will be: the workers tell people that the Tomlinsons are trying to start their own church. This seems to be a common response to anyone having a concern about anything F&W related: make them outsiders, fast. Somehow I don’t think it will work this time.
To the Tomlinsons. We hear your pain. We admire your uprightness. Knowing you are searching for answers;. Just with your little group- met together in your “meeting in your home” – Just open your Bibles together and read the 12 appointed apostles that Jesus sent to be His Witnesses (Luke 24:48). ((Oh, it might be helpful to also read :49 – :53 so that Acts 2: account is NOT so shocking .))
What we are suggesting is JUST a result of Ephesians 6:10 – :17.
Ephesians 6:11 Put on the whole “Armour of God”,
WHY??? that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the “devil”!!??
AND :17 is a very important part of that ‘Armour’ that, thankfully, is very easy to do.
Just ask your little fellowship group to help you read together about those “to whom” Jesus promised and
to whom the risen Jesus then gave (the comforter) the Holy Spirit.
SO, remember what those 12 sent apostles said and did was in the Power of the Holy Spirit.
This record of the very ones the Workers follow is written in easy plain understandable language.
Acts 1: as about 120 gathered to wait as Jesus had commanded, before
:8-:10 he was taken up and a cloud received out of their sight.
:16-:26 Peter took control and returned the Apostles # to 12
(Why? Maybe Matthew 19:28 explains God’s reason)
NOW, the scripture you must read is to whom; what; and the result of the Now Spirit filled 12 apostle as they begin their ministry as Jesus sent witness. Acts 2:5 to whom
:13, :22, :36
2:14-:39 what: all was based on God’s promises and covenants in Old
Testament to God’s chosen Nation of Israel
2:41 thru :47 result of their ministry
this is the Shocking part. (Remember our “helmet of
salvation” and sword of the Spirit is the “word of God”)
so you must read each word and then put altogether; yes, as you gather for fellowship in the mind and will of God.
Bless your hearts, and the healing of your heart, mind and spirit as you read and understand ALL of God’s word. And Hopefully God will lead you to the very scripture that Peter pointed his converts to in 2 Peter 3:15 – :16.
This record of Peter counseling his converts as they waited for God’s promises
and were scattered(Acts 8:1) and plagued with doubts: Peter sought to encourage and assure that God WILL fulfill his promises to them 3:9-:14; they must be diligent :14.
And assures them during this time: God is doing another ‘work’
God is “long-suffering”; AND the reason is :15- :16 in Paul’s Epistles
that’s what happened to a group of us. except it was 2 workers who told us we could go start our own church as “it would be biblical”. THEY told US. it was the answer to “will there ever be gender equality within the fellowship?” a month later, i hear that another worker, speaking of us, said “weren’t they the ones that wanted to start their own church?” seriously? lies. and we’re supposed to trust the ministry. l.o.l.
I think the “start your own church” line is guilt speak when you refuse to submit to the workers who want you to believe they have the power to determine your salvation. They own the fellowship in their minds.
It is quite appalling that an elders wife would take advantage of important learning experience for our fellowship to promote a personal agenda of rebelliousness in spirit and appearance. Ive seen the short hair in question and can attest that it is entirely inappropriate and not in accordance with 1 Cor 11. Even many worldly churches understand these Scriptures and apply consequences when a lady defies the Biblical standards. There is a high requirement for elders in 1 Tim 3 to rule their own households, and when this falters, we can’t risk contaminating the precious fellowship gatherings with poor examples leading the meetings
This is parody right?
I’m an ‘elder’s wife’ and comments like this make me want to go and shave my head in support of Leonie. “I’ve seen the short hair in question …” The righteous indignation almost leaps off my phone screen and indicates to me that you (along with so many others) need to check yourself.
I am heartbroken about how off track we find ourselves and admire people like Jeremy & Leonie who are willing to take a stand.
Have you had fellowship with this elder and his wife? I have. Absolutely beautiful spirit. No personal agenda other than being transparent, honest, and looking to Jesus who is the perfect example.
If the length of hair was critical I’m confident Jesus would have addressed it.
So we anchor on 1 Corinthians 11 but ignore the same author’s instruction in 1 Timothy 2:12?
Maybe we should look a little more critically at what/who is REALLY contaminating this precious fellowship and what a “poor example” really is.
Amen!
I have a question would Jesus have responded in the fashion you have.? My personal opinion is he wouldnt have.
My sense is we look to Jesus firstly and foremost .
The words of a Pharisee. Judging another based on law. If we are to be so literal, can we read the verses about how the ministry should go forth? I’m quite certain there’s no mention of cell phones, laptops, clothing for multiple occasions, and a bounty of cash in the wallet. Please, can we focus on the weightier matters?
@ Abiding
Contaminate? Are you kidding me? Are the pedophiles and rapists doing any contaminating? Or is it the 3-18 year old temptresses and their evil wiles?
Please take the time to understand the historical/contextual meaning of the hair references in scripture. You can just google this. Perhaps this will increase your biblical understanding and reduce your judgement?
Again….it seems some are neglecting the weighter matters…yes let’s focus on short hair while CSA/SA runs rampant and unchecked.
For years the workers attention has been directed on such Salvation Breakers as radios, tv sets, the occasional alcoholic beverage, beards & long hair in men, the evils of womens clothing being a “fashion show on display” (HB), romance novel sightings, jewelry and the horrible crime of dancing. Meanwhile zero attention, response and proper reporting given to the heinous crimes of CSA/SA. I submit to you that the love of God isn’t within those with such warped senses of “weighty matters”.
I think you are over simplifying when many of these cases of CSA were well hidden. If it wasn’t well hidden then why did thousands and thousands of the friends not do something about it?
I think if you contextualise alot of what you are saying I know many churches which adhere to the same things you speak about in the past. This isn’t unique to the fellowship.
As the western world moves further and further into secularism they move further and further away from any form of “standard” so much so that everyone is accepted, even if they are completely wrong. Aka. A grown and hairy man, is viewed as a woman and how dare you challenge that.
I do think there is something “off” about this, just saying.
As an American, I stand proudly with anyone that opposes abuses by workers or friends. Perhaps it’s time for the friends to create their own directory rather than having the workers decide who is in the little black book…
Yes, the old “start your own church” epithet is particularly unthinking and mean-spirited because it is not said or asked in good faith. Continuing to draw together in fellowship and enjoying time together in remembrance and worship is lovely and inspiring. Why would you feel the need to disparage or ridicule? That comment is meant to sting and belittle. So any person who has ever spoken that sentiment is overdue for some serious self-assessment.
This is only one side of their story, and one told with a very self pitying, self righteous spirit. Very poor me, I’ve done nothing wrong. This does nothing to expose what the real problem is and only deflects the attention on to themself….
Then please share. You’re posting anonymously so you’re free to do so.
Would love to hear it, please share.
Exactly and completely agree. This is collective abuse of “the workers”, which seems to be a favourite tactic of the Americans and Canadians who have an axe to bear.
Again, I am surprised a website set up to tackle child abuse, is now descending into meeting removals over short hair.
There really isn’t room for everyone to have a different opinion – if everyone does then everyone starts their own church or breaks away.
This is exactly why Christian’s have 10,000 denominations and Jews or Muslims have about 10-15.
This really isn’t anything new.
ROOM, as you obviously don’t see the connection I’ll spell it out to you. The control the overseers/workers have abused in the past to excommunicate/punish people, is the same control that has been abused when they have refused to deal with criminals in our church who are sexually abusing little children and raping women etc. Control over people’s lives and the abuse of it, leads to an environment where we are now discovering horrific crimes have been committed and covered up for years. The short hair is not a problem to the owner of it; it is the workers who have a problem and are lying, gaslighting and making an issue of it. And those same workers have possibly used the same methods to hide csa/sa.
You sound Irish in your thinking. (apologies to the Irish if you’re not). God gave us each a brain for a reason; it would be wonderful if we all used the one he gave us personally instead of just keeping it in storage and blindly following men/women, jumping when they say jump, merely because they have been given the label ‘worker’.
And no, I’m not American or even Canadian. And I haven’t “lost out”. Nor do I have any intention of leaving the church and starting my own.
Mans (the workers) judgement is a funny thing. I was at the small meeting over 40 years ago with my parents and the elder and his wife, when Weldon Bergous (head worker) removed the meeting from our elders home. Weldon told the elder he was a brawler and therefore unfit to be an elder. The elder was attempting to protect his grandchild and was threatening his son in law, because the son in law was molesting his own daughter, the grandchild. Years later the grandchild would commit suicide. The elder was a good guy but there was zero tolerance for his behavior. The predator is still is out there and has caused much havoc.
Absolutely dispicable!
Jeremy & Leonie,
Thank you for having the presence of mind to document and share with us the tactics these workers have used in an attempt to marginalize, smear, control, gaslight, stonewall and erase you. We know the problem is systemic, because your experience parallels the stories of others we have read about in the last three months who have tried to advocate for the vulnerable, and for what is right.
Some have said to us that the stories reported online are lies. It’s true that we readers cannot personally attest to the veracity of each story. However, a PATTERN of behaviour will always tell the truth.
What you are reporting here is an insult to every honest worker giving his or her life in love, to every child of God who serves God in sincerity, and above all, to the God we worship.
We have full confidence that God is hearing our collective cries, and that our distress means something to Him because He understands it comes from the love we have for Him.
I’m confused with last comment from(1)
“This is only one side of their story, and one told with a very self pitying, self righteous spirit. Very poor me, I’ve done nothing wrong. This does nothing to expose what the real problem is and only deflects the attention on to themself….” I am asking WHO ever wrote this, have YOU ever been judged by the workers? If you answer, no , I suggest you keep your opinions in your head and not let them out on print. You seem very arrogant, judgmental and most likely in leadership. Stop! Let people tell the truth!!! If you have been judged by the workers, then I apologize. How were you judged?
I am so sorry you had to go through this. You see I feel that when I meet the Lord he’s not gonna look at how short my dress was or how long my hair was and that I wore it up in a bun etc. Mary wiped Jesus feet with her hair, I think it’s going to be Jesus looking at our spirit and what we have done here on earth for others and it definitely talks about not being judgmental. It was once said that if we are judging a person and that person has ask God for forgiveness, or God is working on something else that is more important, than who is going to be ithe one whose wrong?? The one judging. It says that our spirit will go to God. Our body (clothing, our hair etc) will return to dust. Judging others is only for God to do. The Holy Spirit will take care of the things that need to be taken care of if we allow it to work.
AMEN!
Modestly is important, I really don’t understand people wanting to wear short clothes. Designers dictate fashion, changing constantly, it’s a money racket.
Modestly is scriptural.
A Godly woman (in time) will be modest and moderate as they allow the Holy Spirit to work.
Yeah, I’m probably going to get a lot of negative feedback. Even if you don’t write it, you’re probably are thinking it, it’s ok I’ve been called old fashioned but it suits me fine, God is old fashioned,He never changes.
I’m not talking about extreme, just moderation. 😊
I hear you and believe I understand.
Need to keep in our own lane most times.
But driving the center line keeps us farthest from both ditches.
The right one and the left one …if you knows what I mean.
I may suggest however, this philosophy of mine applies to both right-hand and left-hand drive vehicles.
I agree ME. We used to have a old elder who popped the buttons on his white Sunday morning meeting shirt due to his big stomach. This same guy would then criticize the young females because he thought their clothes were too tight. Very easy to find fault with others – need to look in the mirror.
Me, I highly doubt the sister workers abused by Dean Bruer and Leslie White were wearing short skirts.
Let’s try to keep comments focused on the true purpose of the Wings website…child sexual abuse and sexual abuse.
Thanks.
I would consider it a privilege to have fellowship with any of the folks attending Jeremy and Leonie’s meeting. Excellent families that are gathering and remembering Jesus. All of them are good people that I respect.
Appearance doesn’t matter.
Having a glass of wine or a beer doesn’t matter.
Let’s accept people for how they are and encourage one another…that’s what matters.