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Ex-Worker Survey Results 

WINGS Note: A support group on social media recently published the results of a survey they conducted of ex-workers. They tried to leave responses as unedited as possible but removed some details (years and names) to preserve anonymity for the submitters. The data shared is not to reduce the trauma to numbers, but to show recurring themes/issues.
WINGS publishes this survey for its references and relevance to Child Sexual Abuse.


Warning:- topics of abuse, suicide, the Bible, religion, profanity

Question 1

Did you feel a “calling” to go in the work?

68 responses

Other Responses- 

  • I thought I did
  • I felt that I should help and in a way that I was “called”
  • I wrestled for clarity and finally felt like “the need” was the call
  • I felt a calling to ministry…..at that time the only option i saw was the work.
  • I felt compelled because of the great need
  • At the time I did, but it is something that I have tried to understand why, as I clearly saw the fallacy of the ministry.
  • I made up reasons for me to go….no real calling
  • Yes, but also pressure/guilt
  • At the time I felt like it was a calling. Now I think it was more of pressure from around and being groomed from a young age.

Question 2

How old were you when you offered for the work?

67 responses

How long did you wait?

Other responses-

  • 20, then retracted offer, then offered again at 21, worked to pay off loans and went in work 9 mos later
  • 20, but I withdrew my offer for 4 years
  • 12 when I knew I was called, offered 17, waited 2 years.
  • 21, I waited one year

Question 3

How old were you when you started in the work?

76 responses

Other responses –

  • 25. But I offered at 20 so my life was impacted from that point on. Girls in my state had to wait a long time.
  • 21 year old child

Question 4

How much education did you have before starting?

76 responses

Other responses 

  • TAFE education (technical college) and partial bachelor’s degree
  • 3 year graduate of nursing school with RN (registered nurse)
  • 24 month X-ray program
  • College Diploma
  • Certificate 3 (after completing high school)

Question 5

How much education did you complete after leaving the work?

60 responses

Other responses 

  • Refresher courses by Microsoft in computer use, some programs
  • Master’s degree in progress
  • Currently completing a bachelor’s degree
  • Have applied for a masters degree
  • Mentored by caring parents and friends
  • Applying to grad school now
  • Commercial pilot ratings to fly for the airlines.
  • Re-entered the Physician Assistant profession
  • I took some independent study classes in Art History, then with one of my jobs I took a course in Tourism Marketing.
  • Bachelor’s Degree in progress
  • Trade school, bachelor’s degree
  • Attempted to study but was not able to concentrate. Have completed various work related technical and IT related courses for my work.
  • Certificate 3 (TAFE)
  • I got my 5th year of education
  • None, health recovery
  • None. At 59 it was too late to start again

Question 6

What years were you in the work and where?

65 responses

Years removed for anonymity

  • AL/MS, MI/AR, CO/UT
  • Australia
  • Australia (Queensland, South Australia) and PNG
  • Australia, Hungary, Germany, Austria
  • BC, AB, Yukon, Maritimes (Canada)
  • CA & AZ
  • CA, AZ
  • CA, AZ, HI
  • CA/AZ/HI/MX/China
  • Calgary
  • CO, UT and MN (USA)
  • Eastern Canada
  • Ecuador
  • IL, WI, NC & FL
  • Ireland, Romania and Serbia
  • Kansas
  • Manitoba, Canada and Chile, South America
  • Manitoba/Saskatchewan
  • MI, WI, IA, CO (USA)
  • midwestern USA
  • MN, SD, Nicaragua
  • MO, AR, IL (USA)
  • MT, WA, Nepal, Bangladesh, India, Sri Lanka
  • NE/KS, CO/UT, Finland
  • Netherlands, Belgium, France, Suriname, Aruba, Curaçao
  • New Mexico
  • NSW Australia
  • OH, WV, IN
  • OR
  • PA
  • PA, LA, MD, DE, GA, Ecuador
  • Queensland Australia
  • Queensland, AU; Sri Lanka
  • Queensland, Australia and Kazakhstan
  • Saskatchewan
  • Saskatchewan, Canada & Sweden
  • Scotland
  • Sweden, Finland, Canada
  • Texas
  • Texas & Louisiana
  • TX/ OK, CO
  • USA and Canada
  • VA, MD, DE, PA, NC (USA)
  • WA
  • WA
  • WA
  • WA
  • WA
  • WA, CA/AZ, Mexico
  • WA, ID, AK
  • WA, WI, MT
  • Washington state
  • West coast of US and Mexico
  • WY, MT, OR

Question 7

How many years were you in the work total?

75 responses

Other Responses:

  • 12 because i rested/doctored for 5 yrs in the middle
  • 16 but i rested/doctored for 4 yrs
  • 5, but with 1.5 years resting in the middle
  • 26 plus a couple years resting with the intending to get back
  • 3 months
  • 9 months

Question 8

Did you experience abuse from your companions or coworkers?

76 responses

Yes- 68.8%, No- 19.5%, Other- 11.7%

Other responses 

  • Not really. Some of my companions were pretty wounded and emotionally immature but none did anything toward me that I view as abuse.
  • It is different for everyone. In my situation and experience in the work, abuse is too strong of a word. I”ve faced similar situations in my post-in-the-work life too. It’s sometimes about the other person, and sometimes about me and how I take it. I had a lot of unrealistic expectations about workers and the work..
  • Now that I look back on it, so much of the system was abusive, and of course my companions upheld the mindset of the system, as did I. But I don’t remember specific abuse from companions.
  • A continuation of conditioning.
  • I think, but it’s hard to understand what dictates emotional abuse
  • Non physical – mental or psychological
  • Nothing more than the ongoing emotional manipulation that was present growing up in the 2x2s
  • I was drug by worker name for 8 years and by worker name

Question 9

What kind of abuse?

65 responses

Forms response chart. Question title: What kind of abuse?. Number of responses: 65 responses.

Additional responses 

  • I now think the theology is quite limiting and thus there was some spiritual abuse, but none directed only at me
  • But I didn’t know what spiritual abuse was till recently.
  • Labour trafficking
  • Sexual grooming from friends in a field
  • As previous question, nothing over and above the ‘norm’
  • Lack of transparency regarding the origins of the sect.
  • Infantilization.
  • Sexual power abuse from older brothers

Another look at the types of abuse-

Question 10

What symptoms/health issues did you experience in the work?

75 responses

Forms response chart. Question title: What symptoms/health issues did you experience in the work?. Number of responses: 75 responses.

Additional responses 

  • I refused to manufacture a health crisis as an excuse to leave, and I am remarkably healthy.
  • Insomnia (2 responses)
  • Shaky, holes in skin, sleeping problems, problems with focus/concentration
  • Wanted to die everyday
  • Severe menstrual problems, anaemia
  • PTSD diagnosis
  • I had some of those symptoms before the work, so I don’t want to say they all came from the work
  • Asthma symptoms escalated requiring medical attention
  • Low self esteem, guilt
  • Top 10 percent for heart disease
  • I was forced against my will to take antidepressant pills.

Question 11

What positives did you experience in the work?

70 responses

  • Travel, friends.
  • Met lots of amazing friends and experienced several foreign cultures and learned languages
  • Connection with people where they were, a sense of belonging and purpose, travel to places I would likely have never gone otherwise
  • Learned a lot about myself & life.
  • Fellowship w the friends
  • I Learned to like a lot of diff foods. Cultural consciousness and diplomacy.
  • I had many friendships and positive experiences in the work.
  • 1. I saw some truly giving their lives for others. 2. I learned that some people are immature no matter their age. 3. I learned that I must speak up for my needs. 4. I felt loved by the people.
  • The friends, several great companions, all disappeared when I left the work
  • Community, surrounded by people who regarded me highly, felt supported and admired
  • Relationships with people who hosted us, personal growth, more open mind toward future careers, and early questions about the 2×2 system (retrospectively).
  • I felt very much it was my place, so no responsibility to plan my life. I really liked to give my life for the friends and loved to recruit. It felt like the only right thing to do.
  • I did get much closer to God and I learned a whole lot about what the Bible says.
  • I had many good experiences and connections with people while in the work aside from the horrific abuse.
  • Close friendships, deep experiences
  • Travel
  • Drew nearer to God
  • Felt so loved, fun times at preps with my worker friends, I loved the people so much, it was amazing feeling so welcome in many homes, one companion taught me how to be practical and take care of myself.
  • A sense of rightness, belonging, and discovering a love of deep connections with people, meeting them where they are.
  • I met many wonderful human beings and I learned a lot about myself.
  • Loved some of the people and travel
  • Friendships, some of which are still ongoing; learned different cultures and languages in different cultures; community feeling; learned about the importance of good communication in relationships;
  • Spent more time reading my bible
  • I met some wonderful people and had some wonderful coworkers
  • Friendships, laughter
  • I spent lots of time reading my Bible which was good. I met a lot of nice friends/saints
  • Hard to find any
  • None
  • Good social life
  • Community and purpose
  • I got to go to places overseas I might not have ever visited. Community and networks.
  • Freedom from needs. Watching God working in spite of me
  • I loved most the friends
  • I saw so much love from the friends. I also learned so much about scripture.
  • Being cared for and made to feel special by friends, the existential sense of “giving my all” and “being in God’s will”, the sense of camaraderie with other workers especially at preps time, and the occasional high of a convention or meeting messages feeling especially inspired.
  • Love, many life skills that served me well later
  • I had many wonderful experiences getting to know so many wonderful people and traveling. I enjoyed the different cultures I experienced and learning languages.
  • I loved preparing for meeting (alone time – yay!) and I loved meeting awesome people
  • Fellowship with the friends. Fellowship with fellow workers. Friendships that will last a lifetime.
  • Loving on people is a beautiful thing, life experience, another language, lots of practice in public speaking, learning that I will give absolutely everything for something I believe in, it made me a more interesting person, it helped me to leave meetings and start my healing journey to my beautiful self. And so much more, really…
  • Met wonderful people. Friends were so kind.
  • Met some great people and learned how to speak in front of an audience
  • The kindness from the friends
  • Time to study the Bible, learn about God. Proof of God’s care/love for me.
  • A deep relationship with the Lord, becoming familiar with the bible
  • Not a whole lot. Probably the fact I got to be in other countries and experience other cultures but it was always tainted by the control and psychological abuse.
  • Being mostly sheltered from “the world.” Friends were kind and generous.
  • This is tricky because many of the positives are also wrapped up in all of the cult conditioning. I had meaningful and robust relationships with my coworkers and the friends. I had a profound sense of purpose and meaning. I had a way to make sense of the world and my place in it. While I was in the work, I felt deeply that I was doing what I was meant to be doing. I felt a connection to “God” that helped me everyday of my life. I felt ease and joy in my life. I loved being available to love people. At the time, I loved seeking to embody the compassion and care of “Jesus,” though everything about the Bible is pretty tricky for me right now. While I was upholding the culture and doctrine of the cult, I had a beautiful and robust community. I was loved and adored (probably worshipped too). I had this perfect little package of certainty and security until it all broke.
  • Learned how to deal with lots of personalities, had lots of time to read the Bible, and some awesome friendships were made
  • People were kind to me, generous and shared what they had. I got to know them and see the inside of their life. Sometimes I got to see the real person, and that was nice. I appreciated the time I was given to read and pray, because I did that. I do believe that I had a connection with God, that had nothing to do with where I was and the “sacrifice” I was making.
  • I got to know a lot of people who I appreciate to this day. Some fellow workers and also some friends.
  • I believe my years in the ministry were important, formative, spiritual development.
  • There were a lot of positives. I loved our friends, visiting among them, sharing the gospel – having Bible studies with new Christians – meeting local people in the communities I visited – sitting with the elderly as they passed… I did enjoy the fellowship among the workers at preps.
  • I enjoyed the people but seeing things I knew wasn’t right caused great concern
  • Met lots of people. Many experiences. Lots of encouragement.
  • Maturity, consideration, integrity
  • Love and kindness from so many people
  • The people.
  • friendships, joy, satisfaction but some of the things that seemed positive now seem to be an illusion. because some friendships I thought I had have disappeared. I thought I had Satisfaction in serving God in a ministry that was aligned with Jesus teaching, now has turned to shame in what turns out to be a ministry full of dishonesty
  • Peace, feeling all was well between God and I.
  • I got to know God and Jesus better. Connected with some special people. I did develop a love for souls.
  • Learned people skills, public speaking skills, confidence in biblical ideas, learned a lot about the Bible.
  • So many! It was wonderful to witness 1st hand God’s work in others lives as well as mine own. I made lots of genuine friends and met lots of wonderful people. I was amazed that God could put a genuine love in my heart for so many souls and vise versa. I am not much for public speaking, but I was amazed to feel his spirit giving me strength to share his word. Amazed to see his hand guiding us to places we hadn’t thought to go, and aligning the path to intersect with others searching for something to feed their soul. I learned so much.
  • Approval at the time from the friends. After I left the work I was treated like gum on the bottom of a shoe
  • Too many to enumerate
  • The tremendous opportunity to study and learn more about Jesus
  • Networking, human connection
  • enjoyed convention preps; enjoyed several large tent-making projects in WA, CA, MT & Canada
  • None
  • Love for God’s word and serving others
  • A clear call and purpose. Deep friendships

Question 12

Why did you leave the work?

77 responses

Forms response chart. Question title: Why did you leave the work?. Number of responses: 77 responses.

(…Learning the history of the fellowship)

Other responses 

  • Wanted a wife
  •  I really didn’t feel i had been called, and God opened a door for me in a very obvious way
  • I’m gay. There are other incidental reasons, but bottom line, I could no longer live a lie in order to live in the “truth.”
  • Lack of care for the less fortunate and no mental health support for friends
  • Burn out
  • Girls
  • Didn’t feel happy there any more and didn’t feel it was my place.
  • My father died
  • Love
  • PTSD and Anxiety
  • Name left off the list
  • My emotional health wasn’t good and prayed to God about what to do and He very definitely called me out of the work
  • Physical health issues, I just felt my continuing was untenable. Not asked to leave, I felt like I had ‘hit a wall’.
  • Realized the overseers/leadership is corrupt
  • Learning the history of the fellowship, A huge one was learning that this way originated in 1897!!
  • Fell in love
  • I left about 16 years before Bruer crisis, but the final straw for me, was the revelation of the decades old sexual abuse of Ira Hobbs. I learned that at least in 1988 when Parkers letter to Murray Keene and Garret Hughes was written regarding Ira and Kenny Wahlin, that these men knew about it. That was 20 years before he was dealt with as a worker, which happened in 2008. I had a lot of respect for Murray Keene as he was from the state I grew up in and was highly regarded. That revelation on top of so many incidents that occurred while I was in the work, destroyed my trust and faith in the ministry. I now realize that that was such a good thing. My faith was in the ministry.
  • I was to be with a companion who I knew was very rigid and works oriented.  I couldn’t face this.
  • Asked to leave, was denied reinstatement after a year sabbatical leave
  • Mental health issues, After back to back years of emotional/psychological and spiritual abuse from a couple of companions I had a massive anxiety attack and was suicidal.  I ended up needing 8 weeks in a private mental health unit and twice weekly psychotherapy for the next four years.
  • Fell in love and couldn’t take the communal living anymore.
  • tried to get back to being in the work but overseer unsupportive of me needing so start slowly
  • Came to the realisation that i couldn’t live depending on others who elevated workers to a level that was completely unrealistic 24/7
  • Sexual Abuse
  • It was a mutual parting.
  • I felt a failure in prayer.  Therefore felt woefully inadequate to advise any of the friends who asked for advice about prayer.
  • Worker name wanted to lock me in her room in Manta Ecuador
  • Questioning the foundation of modern Christianity
  • A clear call and purpose. Deep friendships

Question 13

If you were asked or told to leave the work, can you explain why?

20 responses

Responses 

  • First time because I couldn’t get along with my companions -my companion also asked to leave. Was my 5th year.
  • So beyond depressed I couldn’t function, was getting mad at everyone, took things personally the first time/ second time I left of my own accord before I got that bad because of difficulty communicating with my coworker- I said something was white, she thought I said it was black. I realized there had to be a lot more to life than petty arguments.
  • I was asked to take a break because I was crying constantly and depressed and wanted to die
  • I refused to return to an abusive home and a situation of full-time caregiving for a sufferer of traumatic brain injury. My companion at the time told me to ask for other arrangements to be made for me as I was no longer fit for the mission we were having.
  • Crying all the time and couldn’t sleep
  • My companion and the overseer had a talk with me and informed me that they didn’t believe that I had been truly called to the work. They felt that it was best that I return home. I was struggling a lot with my health but they didn’t bring that up. I was told not to feel like I failed and that I’d given more than most. I was ashamed and did in fact feel like I failed. I let everyone believe that I’d made the choice to leave because I was ashamed of being told to leave. But looking back they did me a huge favor!
  • ups and downs. Lots of health issues
  • After returning from working in Sri Lanka because of severe health issues (both physical and mental), I was asked to leave to get a job and/or government support because they didn’t want to support my recovery anymore. At the time, I was also advocating heavily for better support for workers with mental health issues, particularly relating to CSA. I was also advocating for better ways to respond to bullying in the work, like undertaking non-violent communication courses for all the staff. This all faced strong objections. I’m not sure the exact reason I was asked to leave, but I believe it was a combination of all of these things.
  • I came home from Kazakhstan with PTSD and anxiety after being caught in political violence in a city. I had also had a lot of time alone in a foreign land and I had a very difficult co worker for over 12 months. When I returned home I was told to take as long as I needed to rest and recover. Then 10 months later we got a new overseer and he told me to get a job or social security because there was no more money to support me.
  • First, I was told very harshly that I did not have “spirit of work or truth”. The next year my name was left off the list & told I was not able.
  • This will be hard to keep brief. I wasn’t told that I had to leave or couldn’t be in the work, just not in the capacity that I felt called to. Myself and a sister worker had enquired about marrying and remaining in the work. Our overseer felt he needed to ask “the older brothers.” He emailed Ray Hoffmann and got a response so fast, there was absolutely no chance prayer or inquiry of the Spirit was sought, let alone any thought for our individual experience/situation. We were told if we wanted to marry we would have to leave the responsibilities of the work because, “George Walker felt there was no place for a married ministry in our fellowship.” There was nothing more to the response. No verses or doctrines shared other than George Walker’s feelings. I’ll stop with this much…so much more went into and contributed to making that decision.
  • I left on my own accord
  • I was told I could have a coworker and field if I would be silent about the abuse crisis. I refused to accept that route.
  • Kicked out for speaking up about bullying and covering of child sexual abuse. The overseers spun a narrative that I was mental and so many other lies, even things like – I wanted to have a career change and go and study at uni. My folks and I wrote a letter and exposed them, because I recorded the ph conversations where different overseers sacked me for different reasons.
  • Lack of cooperation with leadership, a mutual lack of trust
  • I was accused of bullying because a co-worker complained about me. I’ve never been told what the complaints were. I’ve had lots of therapy over the years and, in spite of all my character flaws, I know I’m not a bully.
  • I was told something like “we have spoken to all of your co-workers and older brothers and we all agree it would be best if you left the work” “consider this door closed” “get married and have a family, and you can have a useful life”
  • I had tried to expose some of what had been going on amongst the sister workers. I was shut down and had the tables turned on me as if I was the rebellious one who was ‘defiant and unwilling’
  • I took the emblems in an unsanctified home and was unrepentant. The spin was that I was mentally ill.
  • I had come to a place where it was best for my spiritual, mental, emotional and physical well being to leave. Best for the work too.

Question 14

How long has it been since you left the work? (Years)

74 responses

Other responses 

  • Too long to remember
  • 14 months
  • Out since Feb 2021, although the overseer still had me as Care of Health in 2022
  • September 5 2019 I was kicked out
  • 3 months (after denied re-entry)
  • 1 year though my name was only removed from the list a month ago

Question 15

What symptoms/health issues have you experienced after leaving the work?

76 responses

Other responses 

  • Some of these things i was already experiencing prior to being in the work.
  • Pretty much a mental breakdown but when the stress was off I recovered relatively quickly.
  • many of these symptoms were before the work as well
  • Homelessness, social isolation, inability to make decisions
  • Broken heart
  • I’ve been much better since leaving the work but still struggle with my emotional health at times
  • Much of these were closer to time period of leaving the work.  It has actually been a large relief the last 2-3 years to see the things that have come to light, and to realize that MANY have felt like I have about all I have seen!!
  • OCD relapse
  • I grieve the realization that some friendships were conditional on me being in the church. Also the respect that was freely & quickly given when I went into the work, was taken away in about as much time.
  • relief …
  • It took me a lot of unlearning and relearning how to feel safe in workplace relationships.  I have largely healed from these now, however it took a lot of hard work and I was blessed with an amazing therapist and supportive friends.
  • many symptoms, but it is getting better I think
  • Nothing that i would directly relate to my (extremely) brief time in the work
  • Deep sadness
  • My life was devastating . No desire to live anymore

Question 16

How did people respond when you left the work? Did you have support?

65 responses

Responses 

  • My parents were very hurt, but also supportive. Someone said the reason I left was because “he thought too much.” There’s some truth in that.
  • Never heard from anyone. Had help from one professing family, I was very ill, stayed there 6 months till I could work. My Mom helped me get a car. My sis helped me get insurance.
  • not much response. maybe 5 letters. left with $2,000, which i used on therapy to “fix” myself so I could go back in the work
  • My family was supportive. I was mostly accepted by the friends in general.
  • Most of the people tried to find a way to get me back into the work. No support to create a life in society after, except from my partner.
  • No support.
  • My immediate family was supportive. I lived with some of them for a while. I had very little to zero financial support and had a lot of needs. When I left it felt like all of a sudden I was invisible and most of what I felt had been close good relationships turned out to be nothing.
  • No, not much. Another sister left at the same time so we talked a lot.
  • They were disappointed in me. But some were kind
  • My parents were very supportive and helped me get back on my feet. I was suicidal for months and lost a ton of weight. I heard practically nothing from the friends that I had loved so much. I felt abandoned.
  • Some reached out, all urging me to return to the work, I replied to a few, then nothing.
  • Kind but hands off
  • Did not have contact with anyone until a few months ago
  • People were disappointed, but kind and supportive. I received a lot of support from the overseer including financial support to help my transition back to normal life. My family was fully supportive.
  • Disappointed in me. Pity. I was offered a job by some of the friends and I worked there for a year.
  • I did, from my brother who had left the 2×2 a few years before and a little money from my last overseer
  • Many were supportive, thanks to raised awareness in 2023. Many lifetime friends have been silent.
  • Yes, I had support
  • No support. I was basically ghosted, as if I no longer existed
  • Only a few friends. Not workers
  • My family was supportive but others were talking. I felt very uncomfortable in the meetings and I ended up moving away to a different state in order to heal.
  • Not major negative response
  • Disappointment in me, pity
  • Complete rejection and shunning from those inside the group. A small group of people who have also left have provided emotional support and some financial support.
  • I was mostly treated with disinterest and was shown very little understanding or compassion or care. My parents have supported me and 2 or 3 couples stood by me. Otherwise the community all disappeared. Financially there has been very little support. And if any, mostly from overseas.
  • Relief by some major support by parents
  • No. People were very disappointed.
  • I had plenty of support from both the friends and the workers.
  • I had a surprising amount of support- mostly in the form of kindness and understanding from people. Also, my overseer gave me an unexpected sum of money. I married soon after leaving, and although neither of us had much of anything, my husband had a good job which we could live on.
  • Family and friends in home area did what they could
  • People were overall supportive with their words but very few helped in tangible ways
  • They were mortified. No.
  • We were supported by family and close friends. The ministry did virtually nothing to support the transition back to real life. An overseer offered to help if I needed it but I would have had to go ask for financing etc. I never asked and nothing was given. 1 brother worker gave me $5,000 the day I left. That was the only financial help I was given and it was out of 1 of his personal accounts.
  • My parents are deeply entrenched and they supported me for almost 3 years. I knew they would be there for me no matter what (in a financial sense).
  • Ignored me. Not supported. Felt like I no longer mattered. Family angry with me.
  • Some were very supportive, you learn who is your friend for who you are and who were friends with you because you were a worker
  • Basically zero support from the ‘friends’ or workers. Full support from family.
  • Being an ex worker is the lowest of the low. And you have no one to talk about it to. At least I didn’t back in the era when I left. No, I had very little support, emotionally, spiritually or financially.
  • I had great support – emotionally & financially
  • Shunned me, believed the lies of the overseers. Only a handful of people supported me, those have left the mtgs now.
  • A few friends and workers wrote letters saying basically get well, don’t forget your calling, we need you back. One wrote to say don’t worry about anything but getting well. I appreciated that. My family helped me out with a place to stay and a place to work. My parents never asked me one thing about what happened. My bro/sis in law were very open and supportive
  • I had full support of my family (none ever professed), my unprofessing friends, a few close professing friends, and a few friends who had quit the work and meetings years earlier. Really it was only two professing girlfriends who showed up for me completely and were able to see me, believe me, and honor the horror of my experience in the work. I had other friends who tried but because they were still so entangled in the system they couldn’t really show up for me fully. I felt very alone as the only worker on my staff that had left. I found support in the ex community. The reaction from the worker community was basically radio silence. No one said anything. They didn’t even acknowledge that I left. At this point, I had already been vocal with my opposition to the ministerial response to the crisis, so I think I was probably considered an enemy by then. I had one worker friend who stood by me and who has herself left in the recent months. I lost virtually all of the rest of my community. People whose homes I stayed in, who became like family, just disappeared.
  • Absolutely no support inside the 2×2.
  • No one asked why, but a few told me to just go back, be content and write letters.
  • Yes, I had a good bunch of friends.. I probably spent more time with them than with my family (parents,siblings)
  • A totally mixed bag from solid support to alienation, rejection, gaslighting
  • Minimal support from workers – barely heard boo from my overseer or anyone in my state – I went interstate for treatment and the overseer there gave me $5,000 to share between myself and another sister who had left the work in NSW with nothing. My father wasn’t supportive. But God placed a strong cohort of friends around me – my little fellowship meeting in Melbourne were so understanding, supportive and kind while I was healing. The friends who rescued me from my field in NSW were amazing.
  • I lived in a home with an amazing family with five children..was treated very kindly. Don’t remember getting a penny but find a job and enjoyed and one I liked.
  • People were encouraging. No financial support. Did have help in finding work.
  • Sad, angry. Yes I had support
  • Everyone was kind and very supportive
  • The friends were very warm. Didn’t hear much from the workers.
  • Support from some
  • I’m sure there was lots of talk, I didn’t hear much of it – my family were completely supportive but asked no questions and we have never had any conversation about it. The only other thing that stands out to me is one of the then brother workers talking to me and saying the practical arrangements I had experienced (one night here one night there) weren’t ideal for someone new to the work. He has since been removed for inappropriate relationships and use of porn.
  • The ‘friends’ have been lovely. The workers have kept a distance.
  • Varied responses, lots of judgement but I did have a good support system also.
  • Parents & family felt sad, people felt awkward around me, I did not have emotional support or mental support directly afterwards. I was supported financially by my parents. Small sum given by the work (2500)
  • A lot of encouragement to go back in. My family has been wonderful to support me during my time recovering from health issues.
  • No support except from my immediate family. I didn’t feel that I could talk with anyone about what went on.
  • CCF was my mainstay. I had help from total strangers as well as true close friends.
  • Yes overall.
  • People responded kindly. One elder employed me for 1-1/2 years doing farm work until I gained better employment.
  • People criticized me, judged me and treated me as a defeated woman for leaving the work.
  • None
  • Yes, lots of support from family. Quite a few people and workers still “in” have reached out.

Question 17

Have you been in therapy because of the work/church?

72 responses

For how long?

Other Responses 

  • 8 weeks in hospital and then 4 years of 2x weekly psychotherapy appointments
  • After 5 yrs in the work i was admitted to the psych hospital for anorexia and suicidal ideation
  • Especially in more recent years as I left meetings and then have been working through the whole system being set on a false premise.
  • For a few months while in the work, then for a few years immediately after i left. I have relationship issues due to issues with my family of origin. I believe many problems i experienced in the work were also related to this issue that i hadn’t addressed (didn’t yet know or understand at that time.)
  • Have been in therapy, but the work was only an incidental motivator for seeking therapy.
  • I am csa survivor. In therapy for not quite a year
  • I have been in and out of therapy for the last 12 years because of the rape and abuse of overseer and one co worker in Colorado.
  • I have read a lot of books, etc abt spiritual abuse
  • No therapy … yet … my year sabbatical was a good bridge to civilian life again
  • Off and on
  • Off and on the past 30 years
  • On and off for 38 years since leaving. This motivated me to become a therapist myself.
  • Since my 2nd year in the work. 12 years
  • Only indirectly- it has been talked about in therapy as a complicating factor to other life problems.
  • No. I stuffed it down for so long thinking that I truly was the problem. It’s only been recently that I’ve learned others have faced similar experiences
  • Not because of the work/church. Therapy was forbidden by workers. But I went for therapy for 2 years and never mentioned being in the work!
  • didn’t have money for therapy

Question 19

Do you still attend meetings?

No- 70.6%, Yes- 14.7%, Other- 14.7%

Other Responses 

  • I was angry and didn’t have anything to do with meetings for decades. Within the past five years I have reconnected with some workers and relatives but would never go back as a professing person.
  • I do however I have left the system.
  • We attend Sunday morning meeting for now because of who we meet with. We’ve not been to any other form of a meeting and don’t feel drawn to do so.
  • Sunday morning and the occasional bible study
  • I haven’t really, since about 2006 …. except in the last4 years I have been caring for my elderly mother, and accompany her to meetings.
  • Fellowship meetings only
  • In a treatment for cancer so not at this time and who knows what next.
  • Just left mtgs. This year.
  • We haven’t ‘exited’ officially, but haven’t been to Sunday am in 1 year
  • Sometimes

Question 20

Do you still believe in the 2×2 ministry?

69 responses

No- 69.6%, Yes -2.9%, Other- 27.5%

Other Responses 

  • I don’t believe in exclusivity regarding Christianity. I also think other world religions have much to offer.
  • I never had my belief in them only in God but I no longer have any confidence in them.
  • Do unto others
  • I don’t believe in the exclusivity. I believe that there are many good people there. I believe that it could still be helpful to many, but only IF they stand up and acknowledge the wrongs and coverups and put robust practices and guidelines in place to ensure that it is not possible to repeat the coverups of the past. Other churches have done this – it is possible, if they want to do it too.
  • Yes and no. Not every area has handled things properly. Quite a few areas have handled things really poorly. The ministry in our area has been fine and has handled things proactively, but we are keeping a watchful eye on everything.
  • Still love people in the ministry. Do not believe ministry is only hope of salvation
  • Not in its current structure.
  • Kind of believe in it.
  • In some aspects yes, have lost respect for many of the ministers
  • Not as a doctrinal necessity to salvation
  • I don’t disregard them altogether but I no longer believe it is the only way, or that all of them are on the right track.
  • I believe in a ministry like Jesus called and sent
  • I believe there are some sincere workers but there is so much that isn’t right in the system.
  • I don’t believe what we have today truly represents what Christ intended the ministry to be.
  • I am super conflicted.
  • I believe in Jesus
  • As one way of ministering.
  • In theory yes, in current practice no
  • Most of them are liars, abusers, and supporters of the pedophiles.

Question 21

How has being in the work affected your life?

69 responses

Responses 

  • Better public speaking
  • I don’t feel I can trust ppl. This greatly impacts work and personal situations. I am a lonely woman. My friends can’t really understand.
  • I was very young and had very little emotional intelligence when I went in the work. The work was not a place to learn healthy relationships. I left the work less prepared than ever about emotional intelligence and relationships.
  • I no longer trust people, particularly those in positions of power/authority and will go far above their heads to “protect myself” from abuse when I go to them directly. In relationships and friendships I am constantly monitoring the emotional state/behavior/body language for signs of disappointment, threat, anger, or sadness. A crushing sense of responsibility for the emotional state of others, quickly assuming that any change is my fault. I’ve abandoned faith in any higher power and no longer find any use in Christianity for myself. I still have only a tenuous sense of who I am and what I truly want in life, I feel like I lost myself in the work and I’m still learning who I am outside of the work.
  • I’m a positive person so I’m trying to find some good in it all.
  • It wasn’t all bad but it definitely wasn’t what we bought into.
  • I could write a book about this
  • Financially. Almost 20 years of my peak earnings years are gone. Also, that time out of what I call the “real” work force I believe hindered my career.
  • I enjoyed being in the work for the most part, but was angry about being lied to about Wm Irving and peoples’ denial about it. Also I came to believe that the Bible was useful but far from infallible or inerrant. This all created a huge spiritual crisis for me. I love the meetings and the work but had to get really angry and set a hard boundary in order to not be drawn back in. It took me years to work things through and not be angry and defensive. After leaving the work I have pursued relationships and work and spiritual activities that have been very gratifying. My trauma from the work helped shape my choices since leaving.
  • Well, speaking from hindsight now and 35 year’s life experience, I think it has enhanced my life. Not because it was easy, but because it brought my own personal issues to a head and forced me to seek help. It also gave me insight into “worker life” and its realities. When people say stuff about the work in a glorifying way, I say, “Um, no. It’s not like that and here’s why.”
  • College for those waiting to go in the work was discouraged. I would have become a high school or college coach. I left twice, at about 32, was able to get a good job, was on track for a good career when I decided to go back in the work. The second time was 7 years later, I was 46, and found it very difficult to find a steady career. Really impacted my ability to save for a secure retirement. All thought and reasoning capabilities were harmed, it was difficult to step into the working world with no self esteem, no skills, no current references, no proper work attire, no understanding of the culture of the world, general business operations. And, no money, no place to live, no car, no health care, no car insurance.
  • set me back in life- meeting a mate in my 30’s difficult/fear of clock running out, studying and working hard to catch up financially, while also wanting to attract a partner but no time
  • It was harmful for mental health, but in retrospect my inside look at the system and inability of anyone in the system to provide reasonable answers regarding doctrinal questions provided the first cracks in my belief in the system.
  • Don’t know where to start. The work takes the most important years of your adult life.
  • Missed out on most of the years my nieces and nephews were growing up. Extreme disappointment in a religious system I thought followed the Bible and cared for one another .. only to be severely shocked by the wickedness.
  • Since the abuse occurred in the work the work has basically destroyed my life in that sense. I struggle with all the things, trust relationships self worth, realizing it is ok to take care of ones self. It has had an effect on my marriage, my children, our family. I struggle frequently with C-PTSD depression anxiety triggers dissociation exhaustion and directly related obesity to name a little.
  • Lost my best years and never had children.
  • Appreciate a home and a wife
  • I have low self esteem, still feel worthless at times. Haven’t been able to be successful at anything career wise. But have managed to stay together with my hubby for 32 and we have raised a fine son and he has a beautiful family.
  • I think about it every day. I have painful moments of memories, panic, things that trigger intense anger. I avoid anything that makes me feel trapped. I feel anger when someone tries to control me. But it also has taught me to stand up for myself. I’m learning boundaries and how to say “no.” I value and adore my husband and children because I thought I would never have my own family. I’m very organized, and obsessed with simplicity and efficiency because of having to life out of a few suitcases.
  • It put me behind in making a life. Life had no light to it for many years.
  • It has affected me both negatively and positively, but overall, it has led me to where I am today – happy with life. I try not to regret it, but to be thankful for the positive effects whilst acknowledging the negatives.
  • I have autoimmune diseases and arthritis and joint damage….depression, obesity….thyroid disease.
  • I feel like I’m 30 years behind but also I did what I did in response to the Lord working in my heart. Because of that I feel like it kept me somehow. Life is hard either way. It wasn’t all bad, but I sure wouldn’t go back
  • Many friends gained and lost. Starting life over with little real-world experience
  • Joyless
  • Very difficult
  • I wasn’t in long enough for it to have lasting effects on me. But it did open my eyes to the fact that the workers are regular, flawed humans. I saw that the ministry isn’t what the members think it is.
  • A chapter in the past
  • Hard to trust people’s motives, hard to trust people, isolate from people.
  • I have experienced many forms of abuse, including CSA. However, the spiritual and psychological abuse I experienced in the work was by the far the worst of all kinds of abuses and has left me scarred in the innermost part of my being. Added to this is the financial stress that will plague me for many years and will be equally as difficult to recover from.
  • It has affected my life in every way. It has affected where I stand financially in life. It has made safe housing difficult, it has made re education difficult because of my age. It has affected relationships. It has affected my health. I don’t know who I am and what I want to do. I feel lost often.
  • Every aspect of life takes a different approach. I love now the freedom to love.
  • I despise the work, the workers, and most friends
  • It has brought me closer to God and has helped me to see a lot of things more clearly.
  • I enjoyed the deeper connections with people, the listening, the opportunity to be focused on “big things” (God, the meaning of life, etc). But I also found it so very frustrating, because our lives felt wasted and not truly acting on faith. It takes so much more faith, courage, conviction, curiosity to live as a mother and wife and navigate finances and education and parenting and all of normal life! I grieve now over lost opportunity to get to know myself and find my path earlier in life. I also still believe in God/the Divine, and believe I experienced a genuine call to that ministry as part of my life path. So in that sense, I don’t regret it.
  • Lots of positives, some negatives
  • It was my complete identity and with so many varied experiences it shaped who I am today to a larger degree
  • It’s scarred me and has caused great loss, but also gave me a lot of insight and empathy for others in a “stuck” situation
  • Built great friendships. Gave me a basic understanding of the bible(not the kool-aid version so many have drank from the ministry).
  • That’s hard to answer but I go back and forth between viewing it as a positive thing overall, for reasons mentioned above, and something that robbed me of the life I could’ve had and the person I could’ve been. Overall I’ve done enough healing to ultimately see it as something that benefited me.
  • I think it made me a better person. Helped me to have compassion on workers who don’t make it. My spouse is also a ex worker and we have provided one unwell and one exworker an apartment. We understand their difficulties and financial situation.
  • The “lost years” add up, starting again at the beginning is hard
  • Will never be a mother and probably never be a wife
  • In every way. The impact cannot be underestimated.
  • In many ways it’s expanded my life and in other ways it’s felt like a narrow box
  • I am so naive about many things- financial, sexual, work life..
  • I got to know the Bible better, but was reading it with 2×2 glasses. It has left me with much guilt that I wasn’t able to stay in the work.
  • I feel profoundly and globally harmed. I’m not sure I can put into words the depth of the spiritual and emotional abuse that I experienced from living in the worker system. I completely lost my agency. I lost touch with my internal yes/no. I lost the sound of my own voice. I learned to not have needs or desires. I was entirely subsumed by “sister worker.” It was the most salient and only important part of my identity. Name no longer existed outside of sister worker. I lived for years out of alignment with some of my core values. This incongruence caused me to do some ridiculous and painful mental gymnastics in order to quench the cognitive dissonance. I lost touch with the fullness of my emotional life. I suppressed anger, fear, doubt, envy, desire, sadness because those feelings shouldn’t be indulged by a godly person. I compartmentalized many things. Celibacy was deeply harmful as I denied a basic human need and an essential part of my identity. I hid my queer identity and betrayed my own self in upholding the anti-queer doctrine of the church and not showing up fully affirming of my queer loved ones and queer people in the church. Covering my body, keeping my hair long and up, and not wearing makeup or jewelry as sister workers were expected to do led to fear of men’s lust, a lack of safety as I began to dress differently, and a betrayal of my own beliefs about body and sex positivity and my desires and values around adorning myself. Submitting to my companions and the hierarchical patriarchal system caused me to lose touch with my own desires and needs, my own boundaries and expectations, and my own assertive communication skills. Being in the work caused me to stop dreaming and hoping. I lost all financial autonomy. I gave away all of my assets, including ten years of retirement I had saved. I lost eleven years of earnings and the career advancement and exploration I would’ve experienced. I lost fifteen years of prime dating and partnering time. I lost my fertility, giving my childbearing years to the work. I didn’t get to make an unbounded choice about partnering, parenting, career, education, adventure, travel, and hobbies. I experienced profound spiritual abuse. God was weaponized to control me. I don’t feel prepared to talk more in depth about this right now, but basically everything about the Bible feels harmful to me right now. So much was twisted to manipulate and control us in order to preserve and protect the worker system and its harmful doctrine, culture, and organizational practices. Exclusivity is at the heart of much of the spiritual abuse as is the precariousness of a works based system of salvation and an angry and controlling God whose love is transactional. The basic Christian idea that we are bad, sinners in need of saving, feels at its core harmful. There is so much more to say, but I’ll just end by saying that I experienced profound identity, relational, community, and existential losses. I feel like I’ll be grieving and healing forever. I want the worker system to burn to the ground as it’s harming every single one in it.
  • I’ll probably never be able to retire. My prime working and saving years were spent in the work.
  • I went thru a decade or more of personal crisis, drank too much, was deeply angry, ranted about the church, burned a lot of bridges, but then I began to turn my attention to God and started seeking, asking, knocking and that has made all the difference. Now I want to turn around and help anyone that wants to shake free of the legalism and anger.
  • I feel it happened for a reason..Experiences I had then have helped me to understand things I may not otherwise have.. In other respects I believe if I hadn’t gone in the work (particularly as I was not so young) my career path and choices may have been very different. I do feel that I lost a lot of confidence in myself because of that time… which has contributed to being stagnant in my career or not able to progress as I would have liked. I am now nearing retirement age, yet due to being in the work and then marrying later in life.. have young children who I will need to support.
  • Overall I accept those years as constructive and important stepping stones to the eternal shore. I am not bitter, nor at this time harboring resentment or regrets.
  • There are both positives and negatives. I lost 7 years of financial income and superannuation, it took me ages to feel safe in relationships and trust what people said to my face …. But looking back I am grateful God brought me through and out – the whole experience although horrendous has made me a better person and given me a lot more empathy and understanding for others. I’d stall be struggling along if God hadn’t intervened and brought me out.
  • Learned of the corruption and saw different overseers handle things differently. Thankful for a loving and True God who knows and understands all that is going on. Trusting workers is huge for me..things were made known and sweep under the carpet and this was years ago.
  • Redirected me from poor choices
  • Made me understand how much the workers give up and how much joy they have. I wish I could have stayed in, but my digestive issues were too difficult at the time.
  • In many ways it’s enriched it as it was part of ‘my course’ directed by God.
  • Affected every aspect of my life. I am living with family, I have no assets, The things that used to bring me joy, being in mtgs are now source of great stress
  • I can’t believe I was that stupid. It’s not something I talk about and would avoid discussing with anyone
  • I have no money to buy a house or rent but I have learnt resilience and gained social skills I wouldn’t otherwise have.
  • It has affected my life in every way…it has actually made me the person I am today. Given me a deep care for others who have been misunderstood.
  • It left me with basically nothing financially, very little motivation for life, no joy, no desire to live. No purpose or direction in life
  • I think that it has had a positive impact on my spiritually. Though understanding my health is not able to continue, it has set me back in more ways than one as far as creating a healthy future. I do wish that I had a college degree or at least had some college.
  • Significantly. I see both sides of things and feel so tomorrow up inside.
  • It has helped me to see religion at its best. And to see that I never want to be part of a religion again.
  • Although I had some very difficult times I also had some incredible times too. In a myriad of ways.
  • It deprived me of an education and/or 10 years of productive financial improvement.
  • I feel destroyed, destitute, devastated. I was called antichrist, crazy, evil because I exposed Child Sexual Abuse . No desire to live after being excommunicated from meetings. This horrible experience affected my marriage and my relationship with my family.
  • I moved on with my life not allowing the yoke of bonds getting to hinder or control me

Question 22

What would you tell people that are thinking about going in the work?

74 responses

Responses 

  • Join the military.
  • Stop. Don’t
  • I don’t think that’s how God intended us to live. I don’t think workers should be allowed to start before they are about 30. There may be other ways they could share their faith, as the workers basically preach to the friends and have little contact with the world.
  • Don’t go! It will destroy your sense of self and slowly crush the faith that’s so strong right now. You will see humanity at its worst and cruelty masquerading as “love”.
  • Please Don’t.
  • question the so called calling you think you’re had
  • Only a few workers I trusted
  • Don’t. Just don’t. Full stop.
  • I’m not big on giving advice. I would be curious about a person’s experience and reason for going in the work. I would share my experience without imposing it on them.
  • I would say, “Would you be open to.doing a Matthew 10 study together? Let’s take a deep dive into what Jesus meant when he sent those 12 men out. It was short term, it was only to the Jews, etc., etc. Can I share some of my experiences with you?”
  • Don’t do it. Your mind is so programmed the voice you hear and are sure is of God you don’t realize your subconscious mind is telling you to go for whatever reason.
  • It was sweet when it was sweet. When it was bad it was real bad. Know that it’s OK if it gets bad and it’s not you. You are bright and shining beautiful light. Live your joy.
  • Take a hard look at publicly available information, not only regarding 2x2s, but other high demand groups. Trust your own feelings. When you sense wrong, it is probably wrong. Don’t let others override what you are hearing directly from God or your intuition.
  • If you have to leave the work, you will have a hard life. It literally disconnects you from everything normal, and it’s sometimes too late to develop your identity, healthy feeling of responsibility and to learn self respect. That influences all of your choices.
  • Worst thing you could ever do
  • Please realize there are many ways in which one can minister. It isn’t limited to being a 2×2 preacher.
  • Dont.
  • Join the military
  • I would caution them and tell them what they might face and experiences they might go through. And the hardships they will face when they can’t continue in the work any longer.
  • Please don’t go. The ministry took me as a girl that was zealous, in love with God and lost sheep, chewed me up, and spit me out broken and beaten.
  • Question the doctrine.
  • Either you will pay with your mind and health, or you will become an abuser yourself
  • Don’t allow yourself to be squashed. If you are being treated badly, tell somebody who can help. If you need to leave, there is a future for you. Be yourself – the aim here isn’t for you to become a clone of your companion.
  • Do not do it. You will lose your health and your autonomy
  • Be sure. Or don’t
  • It’s hard to tell them anything, but not to think that it has to be for life.
  • DON’T
  • It is not at all like it appears. Please know you can be right with God without the 2x2s
  • Don’t
  • DO NOT DO IT!
  • Don’t
  • Do not go. Your mental and physical health will be broken
  • If they are thinking about it, they are likely fully indoctrinated and won’t be easily persuaded otherwise. People have to come to this on their own. If they would have ears to hear, I would say.. Listen to your gut. Don’t ignore the warning signs or your intuition. And if you do go into the work, don’t give away all your money because you will need it if you ever get sick.
  • Don’t go in the work. Go and live a great life outside of the group and ministry. It will ruin you.
  • It’s your life and God can use it no matter where you are
  • Don’t go.
  • I had a good experience, but keep a watchful eye on everything around you. Keep up with all the sides of every current issue.
  • Man… this is tough. Because I believe in God, And because I know that God works with people where they are, within their cultures/paradigms, I think it’s possible that God could direct someone into this “ministry” still as part of his overarching plan for them. Part of me wants to tell them to run for the hills. But I know that I absolutely would not have been able to hear my own advice when I was so brainwashed. So I think I would tell them… Stay open, stay curious. God is bigger than the meetings. So much bigger. He’s so much bigger than Christianity. He’s everywhere. Pay attention to the voice of light and truth inside you. Stay alert for any sign of abuse of any kind, and don’t tolerate it. It is never of God, even if they make you think it is. Listen to people as deeply as you can, especially when their story doesn’t line up with the narrative. Remember that failing at what you think you’re supposed to do is sometimes exactly the right thing. And for heaven’s sake please go get a college degree and work experience first!
  • I would discourage it. I discouraged my grandson.
  • That’s a good question!
  • I’ve had this conversation a number of times. I discourage it, ask hard questions and share some insight into the reality of a worker. (It’s not as glamorous as it looks.
  • The Spirit has led you this far in life and it will continue to do so. Don’t let overseers/workers influence your perception of the Spirits leading.
  • Okay, you can go into the work on this condition: Wait one year and commit to meet with me once/week, read the books I tell you to, read one post on a 2×2 site every day, by a different person, and write it in a journal. Meet once/month with someone who has left, and ask them why they left. Write me a one-page summary. If you decide in a year that this is what you want to do, I will support you, shut my mouth and continue to love you – and not from afar.
  • Be absolutely sure you are called. Don’t go until you’ve had life experience. Warn them about sexual harassment. And about abuse from other workers and tell them they don’t need to take it.
  • Never been asked
  • I don’t know
  • At this point I wouldn’t tell them anything. But I would feel like sucking in my breath in a sharp intake, and feeling very sad because they have no idea what they are doing, or what is happening, or why.
  • Please be aware of the crisis and pray to be open to the Lord and not others’ opinions about what you should do.
  • Don’t
  • If I was in a position to be brutally honest, I would tell them not to do it.
  • Oh geez, where do I start… I think I would begin by asking them questions. What are they feeling? What do they think the work is? What does their calling sound like? What pressures are they feeling? What are their hopes and dreams about the work? I’ve learned in this last year and a half that you can’t convince someone of something that they aren’t ready or willing to hear. I would ask if they are interested in hearing my story. I would ask that they read and listen to the stories of the thousands of people who have been harmed emotionally, spiritually, physically, and sexually by this church. I would ask if they are interested in learning about authoritative control and influence (cults and high control religion). Of course I would encourage them not to go.
  • I would tell them every detail about my experience
  • I probably wouldn’t volunteer anything, as people have to make their own decisions. But if the conversation came up, I would ask questions. I don’t think it is that effective to tell people things, but we can try to get them to think about it themselves. Unfortunately there is so much guilt and sense of duty wrapped up in that decision, that it is a hard conversation. Also, to the church, anyone that tries to dissuade that “sacrifice” is of the devil. I think it is better to try to walk alongside people and show them the beauty of Christ.
  • I would encourage them to pray and have guidance from God in the matter rather than be swayed by people around them. I would perhaps encourage them to read some of the verses which bothered me whilst in the work.. the ones regarding not marrying and 1 Corinth 9 v 5 Have we not power to lead about a sister, a wife…
  • I would caution a young person to move slowly, delay until the fellowship is stable and avoid “Identity foreclosure” – consider well the options of life, naturally and spiritually.
  • I’d be honest with them, acknowledging that it is a very real calling – BUT let it be your service to God alone – have confidence in your identity in him and don’t take on board everything that others tell you – always reach out and ask for help – you are just as valuable and just as able to be used by God’s spirit as the older ones are and don’t let them tell you otherwise.
  • Not until the issues are made right and HONESTLY of the issues are made right.
  • Take lots of time. Do your research.
  • Go, but don’t have anything to do with existing workers or overseers
  • Pray, pray, and pray some more! Be sure God is truly calling you to that place. Be willing. Realize that if you are called and do go, there is more joy and peace there than you can imagine now.
  • Read everything that is out there. The Truth can withstand scrutiny.
  • I’d probably like to say “I don’t think you should.” Also Make sure you do a lot of healing work first to be sure that you aren’t going in the work for reasons like trauma response. If you feel your health going down in the work, get out while you still have some health left and you can get your life back together.
  • Don’t
  • I wouldn’t be able to talk to them.
  • Make sure it is God speaking to you. Do not give up the person you really are. Work with your hands first, find out about relationships, the value of friendship, experience life in the work world. Don’t rush into anything. Keep your eyes wide open and trust your gut
  • Do you want to be part of an evil, mentally sick group that supports abuse and pedophiles more than children? That doesn’t encourage mental stability, or overall health? Would you like to find yourself destitute in 5 years?
  • Make sure it’s a true calling from God. Trust him, and do all you can to stay pure of heart. Just because you’re among people who believe in God does not mean you should let your guard down. Look out for other’s souls, but more than anything protect your own soul/peace.
  • Don’t do it. It’s corrupt and not what you think it might be.
  • Follow Jesus. Live life so there are no regrets in eternity.
  • Don’t.
  • If you’re sure, Make sure you have an escape plan.
  • (1.) The statistics show that 60 to 70 percent of workers leave before 10 years. (2.) Given that statistic they may face difficulty in becoming self-supporting, especially if they stay in the work until they are age 40 or over. (3.) They should do a detailed study of the history of the sect before offering for the work. “Preserving the Truth” is accurate and very important reading. (4.) Only married people such as elders should be in the ministry. The government of the group should be the responsibility of a board of elected married elders.
  • Think twice. It’s not a SAFE place to be in.
  • Offer your life to God not Men
  • It’s OK I guess if you really feel called but don’t buy into the bullshit that you’re special above millions of other preachers

Question 23

What would you like to say to your previous overseers and coworkers?

72 responses

Responses 

  • Thanks. But marriage isn’t bad. Sex is good.
  • I still love the same ppl I always did and want the best for them like I always did.
  • Please consider very carefully what type of a system you are trusting in. The Bible does not support the current ministry.
  • Why? Why did you treat me as if I meant nothing? How can you call your conduct anything but cruelty? Your “Godly love” is a shame and a lie. Pharisees, scribes, hypocrites!!
  • I’m ashamed of you all.
  • Covering up for years & making out we were the only true right way.
  • Your morals are nonexistent.
  • Go fuck yourself
  • Pay me for the years you stole from me. I’ll take $10k per year for every year I was in.
  • I’m happy then I’m happy for you. But if you are ever curious about my choices, I’m happy to share.
  • I would like to say the same thing I just said to the previous question..and more. “Let’s take a deep dive into Matthew 10 and all of Acts. What did the ministry, especially to the Gentiles, look like? Let’s talk about workers being married. Many of the Apostles were married. It’s wrong and unscriptural to prohibit it. Let’s talk about the role of the whole church working together as a body of believers as they did in Acts, not in divided, hierarchical places. Let’s talk about scriptural handling of sin and crime within the church. Let’s talk about not taking an 18 or 19-year-old with zero life experience into the work. Jesus was 30! Let’s talk about the history of this fellowship. Let’s be real and transparent about that. Let’s examine some of the false doctrines and beliefs that started soon after our beginnings and that are still alive among us. Let’s rid ourselves of them! Let’s allow each other to wrestle with God and give each other room and space to work out our own salvation. Let’s acknowledge that Jesus taught us to ASK, SEEK, AND KNOCK…ALL of us, not just our “great-grandparents who first heard the Gospel!’ Let’s acknowledge there have been, are, and we will ALWAYS NEED TO IDENTIFY WOLVES AMONG US. Let’s accept and believe Jesus’s words when he said “Whosoever Believes in me will not die but will have eternal life.” LETS STOP THINKING WE HAVE THE POWER TO DETERMINE SOMEONE ELSE’S SALVATION.
  • Treat each other with dignity, respect, and share in an equal partnership. Really, what you’re asking and teaching is wrong and the system has resulted in abusive behavior toward young workers who learn that as the best way to train and follow that example when they have the lead and add their own brand of cruelty. Really, there is no way to regulate behavior in the work, so that just needs to be abandoned.
  • I told them already in a dream. What I needed was nurturing and compassion and space to grow. I felt like I was always put in a box. People made up their minds about me and didn’t give me space to grow or be different. But really what I needed was the space to be a normal human being free of shame but rather celebrated with joy.
  • Not at this time.
  • You have no idea what you do to younger people. Please, get thorough knowledge of psychology, before you attempt to change people’s lives. Develop an aftercare program, and make sure everything is based on ‘informed consent’ and age appropriate.        
  • I’m an adult, stop controlling me. Live and let live. You hypocrites.
  • To the ones who saw the value of my soul and treated me the way one should I love you and am thankful for you. For the ones who abused me, retraumatized me, didn’t support validate and hear me and left me by the wayside… I don’t even know where to begin. You are miserable human beings who truly have no understanding of Christ and God, you are Wolves and you do not have the heart of a Shepherd.
  • Actually practice what you preach and dont treat others as your slaves. We are all worth the same and deserve to be treated as such and listened to and respected.
  • Chill out
  • Lots of things. But they will never listen. They are deceived.
  • You destroyed me. You have hurt innocent little ones, children and young adults. You are the greatest evil that you fear. To the coworkers that were kind and loving, I love you and will always be grateful for you. To my coworkers that were abusive, you didn’t mean to hurt me, but you did. You learned abuse and you deal it out to every companion you are with.
  • To the overseers, why do you let abusive companions stay in the work, to ruin your young workers? You are so desperate for more workers, but you are destroying them. Look in the mirror.
  • Examine your doctrine and insure you have good reason to believe what you believe.
  • Overseers- go fuck yourselves. Not all coworkers, but most- you are dishonest, self righteous hypocrites.
  • Both – Thank you for helping me have a largely good experience in the work.
  • Overseers – Please do whatever it takes to keep children and young workers (actually all workers and all friends) safe. We don’t read of legal marriage in the Bible, yet it is expected within the church because that’s how society recognises marriage now. Society requires that churches now be registered and put systems in place to try to prevent abuse, recognise it when it happens and deal with it. It is for everybody’s good – please act wisely. Be true, for there are those who trust you – inside and outside.
  • Previous companions – open your eyes. Speak out when you see something happening that shouldn’t. If you’re happy in the work, stay. If you’re not, you can leave. There is a future.
  • Nothing….they are blind as bats
  • Find Jesus and make your life about Him.
  • You’re wrong
  • Nothing. They would not listen or care.
  • Fuck off!!!
  • I did tell them. Before I realized the doctrinal issues, I told them the culture of the work is toxic
  • You have no business leading others. You caused and continue to cause so much harm to others. You need to step down and take accountability for all the pain and suffering that so many have endured.
  • The whole system is a fraud
  • Shame on you
  • May you be well. May you know true peace. May you be free.
  • To the overseer: You have no idea the harm you have caused in the decisions you have made for my life. You have no compassion or spirit of christ. You don’t understand women and you don’t want to understand or listen. You are a bully and you are a disgrace to humanity.
  • Coworkers: You are a gutless group of men and women and I’m ashamed to ever have called you my friends.
  • Learn to love as Christ loved
  • Fuck you!
  • The individual who was the overseer while I was in the work has since passed away. I do know he was one that was reported to be an overseer who covered up issues. I’m not quite sure what I would say to him as he was older and probably wouldn’t listen anyway. I had some pretty great coworkers who I would hope would listen to reality.
  • To my overseer, I’m so deeply disappointed in you.
  • To my coworkers, many of you were kind, but all of you shut down my curiosity, my passion and my questions in different ways. I know you shut yourself down too. I know that was survival. I know that it’s what you do to stay in the system, and that leaving is so terrifying. We all gaslight ourselves in prayer, “dying to self” and any thought or desire outside the prescribed worker life. But I wish for you the courage to actually start listening to your own questions. To start deeply listening to others. If what you believe is true, then honest questions can only lead you closer to the truth. There is nothing to fear.
  • Saying anything would probably be useless, but I would tell them the truth about my experience.
  • There are lots of things I would love to say but unless they are open to seeing it, it would do no good. It’s all about Christ and I would like to tell them to read Preserving the Truth for a start.
  • Get it together. Take it down a notch. Stop lying. Educate yourself. What were you thinking? Apologize. Stop being a dependent. Say thank you. Do the dishes. Wash the sheets.
  • To the overseers: Seek the Spirit and forget the other overseers. Run your own staff without having to ask “the older brothers” if you should make a decision.
  • To the coworkers: Don’t lose touch with reality. Care for people. Life in the work is a bubble that is disconnected from real life. Don’t pretend to think it isn’t.
  • Thank you and Fuck you 😆💛
  • You better get with the times and deal with csa. That abuse of any kind is intolerable in a fellowship that is supposed to be all about love.
  • Wake up! Look at nature and see there is no “only” way to do anything! But they are enjoying their dream of being God’s “only” true servants too much and they get very annoyed if you do anything that might threaten to wake them up
  • Would rather not talk much to most of them
  • Overseers: You dishonest and guileful men. Coworkers: You are unable to truly care because you have so much fear in you, rather than love. I pity you, I care for you, I pray for you, I am so sad for you. You are so blind. It is heartbreaking.
  • Be open to truly loving, esteeming & serving Jesus above any religious form or system.
  • You’re all liars, abusers, hypocrites and enablers. I hope you wake up and repent one day.
  • I would ask them how much they really knew about, or participated in, the abuse in the fellowship. For instance, at what point did Dean Bruer become such an evil person? I would ask him if he was abusing others the year we were in the work together, right under my nose. If not, when did the abuse start? I would tell them that becoming an overseer is pretty much selling your soul to the devil.
  • This is tricky. It feels impossible to speak about the profound harm of the system to people still completely invested in preserving and protecting the system. I tried once with a former companion who told me she still loved me but she didn’t love what I was doing. That she was greatly disappointed in all of my efforts to work against them. This is what I wrote: Dear “worker name, oh worker name. I am not working against you. But I must act in service of truth– I can’t compartmentalize any more and pretend this church isn’t incredibly harmful to mind, body, spirit, and soul. I loved and love the people dearly. Tremendous harm has come to thousands of beloved people, myself included, because of the doctrine, culture, and organizational practices of the church. Despite what has come to light this year, much of the harmful teachings and practices continue. People continue to suffer the devastating consequences of emotional, spiritual, and physical abuse. I feel I must continue to tell the truth about that as I see it.
  • Don’t hide anything, and tell the truth. I also would tell them to read “The Church of TOV”, and go to seminary and learn true theology.
  • I think of all the brave people who have reached out to overseers and workers and tried to help them see their fallacy and have failed, so a part of me says “I have nothing to say to you”. But on the other hand if they open up a door or if an opportunity would arise, I would definitely take it. I am not sure what I would say to them, I would just try to be ready, but I would like to ask them who Jesus is to them. I would like to ask them if they think they put themselves between the people and Jesus and why they do that.
  • I would like to have the strength to tell others why I left.. I have told very few people. I have 2 siblings who were in the work at same time as myself and still are. I do feel frustrated as I feel those around me do not see as I do.. I believe that some of them feel they need to be the way they are.. but I know that is not right… not of God. I would like to know how to be able to present that..
  • I have tried to speak with some of those currently still holding office and been disappointed in their refusal to consider necessary examination of doctrine, behavior and structure of the ministry. I have decided to not pursue any further discussion as it is beginning to trigger adverse feelings for myself. Everyone is at a different stage of awareness and willingness and might I say ‘honesty’. Both ministry and congregation need to work through this difficult journey prayerfully, scripturally and sincerely.
  • Belief without action is as good as unbelief.
  • I firmly believe the movement started with the right intentions however legalism and hierarchy have risen up and defiled the leadership of the church. This was never established by Christ. You need to seriously re-examine some of these things and repent for any harm or damage caused. Most of all you need to move to protect the vulnerable and step up as leaders to eradicate bullying, harassment and other forms of abuse from the ministry. Build each other up rather than tearing each other down.
  • Too much to write here.
  • I wish you would make honest decisions like you told me to do.
  • I love you all! Thank you for all you did to help and encourage me.
  • Be honest and do what God tells you to do despite your fears. He will provide a way where there is no way!
  • God would not have set up a ministry that totally wrecks people’s lives and health so that means that what we have as a ministry now is not aligned with what God intended.
  • Listen.
  • So many, many things but what would be the point? They won’t listen and they’re not prepared to take responsibility for their own behaviour.
  • I know you don’t understand how I have arrived at the place I am now. Someday you might find yourself at a crossroads and you might come to the same conclusions as I have come to. Jesus is the way. The Truth can set you free. I’m still a little bit hurt but I’m a lot more free. I actually don’t want to have any conversation with previous overseers, I am thankful that I don’t need to say anything to any of them. I am thankful for my new life…so much to be grateful for.
  • Please leave the work and go to therapy. God wants you to have full Joy. The life you are living is full of human sacrifice that God never asked for. God’s love for you is written everywhere in the Bible and requiring sacrifice is not God’s love. Accept the simple gift of salvation from Jesus. Requiring yourself to “deny self” excessively is not fruit of the spirit. It is a fruit of not accepting true Grace and Salvation from God. This is of the Devil, not of God.
  • Thank you for supporting me and standing up for me when it came to my celiac disease. All 4 of my coworkers took it upon themselves to help watch for gluten contamination in peoples homes. They were encouraging, and they let me rest when I needed to. In the end I’m grateful that my overseer allowed me to make the choice to withdraw from the work instead of asking me to step down even when my health was so bad. Though at the time I wish he had not left my name on the list for so long after quitting. Though it did give me time to work things out for myself quietly if I were to offer again. I was glad for the staff I was on that had people who encouraged taking care of mental health. This is my experience, I’m sure it’s not perfect for everyone. Coming out of the work, has definitely caused some identity crisis. This is because when you go you give up “yourself” to share something greater. When you get out you have to rebuild and find yourself again. So that you can make decisions etc. It feels like a baby deer getting up to walk for the 1st time. I feel like there have been lower lows since exiting the work. It will take a long time to rebuild.
  • I’d really like to write a letter and I’ve tried numerous times. I just can’t seem to get the words out. Thanks for making me feel like a useless piece of trash who wasn’t worthy of being cared for or loved or respected in any way. I was never good enough to fit into what you set out as the perfect mold, and not sure why I even tried. Thanks to the overseer for stuffing so many problems under the rug and adding to the creation of this horrendous mess. People talk about the laborers being few but I wonder if they’ve considered the real reason….
  • Follow Jesus. Live life so there are no regrets in eternity.
  • It varies from individual to individual too much to generalize.
  • The current system of homeless, itinerant workers and overseers is by it’s nature spiritually and emotionally abusive.
  • Liars : You cover up for so long pedophiles. Cowards : Not allowing women to TALK and didn’t believe them, Don’t believe the victims either. Criminals: raping children in Ecuador and all over the world. Abusers: Forcing young girls and women to take antidepressant pills, against their will. Nothing is hid
  • It’s OK I guess if you really feel called but don’t buy into the bullshit that you’re special above millions of other preachers.

Netherlands Newspaper Article – Part 2

WINGS Note: Recently The Nederlands Dagblad, a Dutch Newspaper, published two articles about the fellowship. They cover many topics but are published by WINGS for their content about CSA and factors that impact on the prevalence and treatment of CSA. Part 2 was published in Dutch at https://www.nd.nl/geloof/geloof/1252923/ik-dacht-dat-hij-dichter-bij-god-stond-hoe-seksueel-misbruik-

WINGS post of Part 1 is available at Netherlands Newspaper Article – Part 1


‘I thought he was closer to God.’ How sexual abuse remained hidden in this closed ‘church’

For years, sexual abuse remained undiscussed in the closed Two by Two (Twee aan Twee) movement. Now victims worldwide are telling their stories. But what happened in the Netherlands? The Nederlands Dagblad investigated. ‘I had to leave the door open when I went to take a shower.’

Aaldert of Soest Wednesday, January 15, 2025, 11:30 AM modified 6:58 PM

Ruud* is a teenager when he is baptized. Still a minor. It happens during the summer conference that his religious community organizes every year. Immediately after the baptism by complete immersion, Jur, a 76-year-old pastor, comes to him. Ruud is allowed to take a shower in his accommodation. ‘I thought that was very nice’, Ruud reflects. He goes along unsuspectingly. 

This is part 2 of a two-part series on the Two by Two movement

But after he comes out of the shower, now dressed, something happens. Jur is waiting for him on the landing. ‘He grabbed me by my hips and kissed me several times on my mouth.’ The moment lasts for a while. Ruud is afraid and doesn’t dare say no. ‘I didn’t want to hurt him.’ He also has respect for the position of the ‘worker’, as pastors in this community are called. ‘He was someone who, in my opinion, was closer to God than I was. I didn’t want to speak ill of him, so I didn’t tell anyone anything afterwards.’ 

Only this year, after some hesitation, Ruud comes out with what happened some fifteen years ago. This has everything to do with the international wave of publicity surrounding the very private Two by Two (Twee aan Twee) movement. In America, a hotline is set up in 2023 for victims of sexual abuse within this religious community. In a year and a half, thousands of people call this number and the reporting center’s researchers identify more than 900 (alleged) perpetrators worldwide, including both pastors and ordinary members. And in America, the FBI starts an investigation. 

From that moment on, the totally unknown community, which has no official name, receives media attention in various parts of the world. On Sundays, its members meet in homes. An important principle is that the leaders – the so-called ‘workers’ – give up all their possessions, live celibately and are sent out in pairs to a region. 

There they stay permanently with followers of the religious community. Large-scale conferences are organized annually in the various countries or regions for the followers, who are called ‘friends’. Foreign guests also attend these conferences. Most ex-members say that they used to believe that they belonged to the only true religious community, which goes back in a direct line to Jesus himself. 

Dozens of people involved

Despite the international publicity, it remains quiet in the Netherlands, where the movement has several hundred followers. But slowly, the international reports are filtering through to members and ex-members – and they are causing a stir. In January 2024, the Nederlands Dagblad comes into contact with an ex-member who tells her story. From that moment on, the newspaper speaks to dozens of people involved. A first article about the religious community appeared last week. But what exactly is the situation with sexual abuse? 

The question first takes us back to 2022, when Dean Bruer, a key spiritual leader of the movement in America, is found dead in a motel. A little later, an internal letter is released linking Bruer to a long history of abuse, including the rape of minors. Then a can of worms opens up. In March 2023, ex-members set up a hotline, and so many stories are quickly received that the organization, Advocates for the Truth (AFTT), is expanded to include an investigator and a team of counselors. Reports come in from all over the world: America, Australia, the United Kingdom, South Africa, India.

“There is no accountability. Zero, absolutely nothing.”

In May 2024, the Nederlands Dagblad spoke via video link with Cynthia Liles and Lauren Rohs, the founders of AFTT. Liles is also investigating the extent of the abuse. At the time of that conversation, the American hotline had not received any reports from the Netherlands, they say. But they have serious doubts as to whether there has been no or less abuse in the Netherlands. After all, stories are coming out from all over the world, and they have to do with the structure of the organization. Liles: ‘The workers stay in the houses of friends, there is no policy to combat abuse, there are no procedures, there is no accountability. Zero, absolutely nothing.’

In general, the risk of sexual abuse is greater in closed groups, says Arjan van Dijk. He is involved as an expert with the aid organisation Fier, which is setting up a new help centre for sects and coercive groups at the request of the government. The increased risk in these groups has a number of reasons, he explains. ‘There is more dependence on leaders. If someone tells you how you should live, and you respect that, it is more difficult to then set boundaries with that person. Another aspect is an oppressive view of sexuality. The less you are allowed to experience sexuality, for example through mandatory celibacy, the more excesses you get.’ 

Finally, people in closed communities are often expected not to think too much for themselves, Van Dijk explains. ‘You are not allowed to trust yourself, but have to surrender. Your own individuality with clear boundaries becomes less important.’ 

During the investigation, the Nederlands Dagblad comes across a number of cases of sexual (child) abuse within the Two by Two (Twee aan Twee) movement in the Netherlands. In addition to Ruud, the newspaper speaks with four other people who tell how they themselves were abused as minors. In addition, the newspaper speaks with people who know of other cases of abuse. In total, there are five (alleged) perpetrators, and at least seven victims. Due to privacy and family relationships, not everything can be written down, but where possible, the newspaper has verified the stories and spoken to multiple sources about them. 

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Dean Bruer in the Netherlands

More about this abuse later. But first: how did the leaders in the Netherlands react when the flow of abuse stories abroad started from the beginning of 2023? After all, the Dutch part of the religious community has strong ties with other countries. For example, in 2009 Dean Bruer was a guest in the Netherlands. In the worker photo (which is taken at the annual summer conference, including the foreign workers present) he is standing right next to Jur. ‘He also stayed with Dutch families at the time, including a family with two young girls’, a former member remembers.

Pamela Walton, administrator of the international Facebook group ‘Exposing Abuse: 2×2’s’, has recorded all travel movements of workers. Apart from Bruer’s visit in 2009, as she found out at the request of this newspaper, the Dutch conferences of 2014, 2015, 2017 and 2019 were also attended by foreign workers who have since been accused of sexual abuse. 

The first thing that the managers in the Netherlands communicate internally about it is a short email in July 2023, just before the annual summer conference. They write that things have become known abroad about ‘transgressive behavior’. To immediately add: ‘We have no reason to suspect that something similar is going on here in the Netherlands.’ If someone does experience transgressive behavior, they will do everything they can to support that person, the email concludes.

‘Looking back, I think I should have been braver.’

The email raises many questions. Although Ruud had not yet come out with the story about the assault after his baptism, the workers had already received several serious signals about inappropriate behavior by Jur (who himself has since passed away). 

In an interview with this newspaper, head workers Bart Hartemink and Martin Roest acknowledge that there were already reports of misconduct by Jur at the time. But, they argue, with this email they were referring to the current situation. ‘We were not aware that anything was going on at that time. The email was not about the past.’ In retrospect, they realise that the message was very brief. ‘We didn’t know exactly what to do at first either.’

In almost all conversations with ex-members, the name of Jur, as Jurjen Pettinga was known, crops up. Even though not everyone has personal experience with it, it was widely known that his behavior raised questions. Almost all ex-members mention his name. They say that he made ambiguous remarks, that he was ‘touchy’, that he let boys massage him during conferences, or that he asked boys to come to his room. And then there is that story of the assault, some fifteen years ago. 

Inappropriate behavior with young boys

Jur also misbehaved abroad, according to email correspondence seen by the Nederlands Dagblad. During a stay in Canada, he was sent home because of inappropriate behavior with young boys. He was also no longer welcome in this country. That was about eight years before he allegedly assaulted Ruud in the Netherlands. Although his behavior was known in Europe, he was allowed to remain a worker – until he died in 2016. 

At a certain point – around 2008 – he was paired with Nathan*, a young worker who was critical of the way things were going in the community. Nathan previously told this newspaper that the obligation to hang out with Jur was a punishment. The two never got to the point of abuse, because Nathan didn’t give them any room for it. ‘But he made enough innuendos. Like the comment that I should just leave the door open when I went to take a shower. Because he had to be able to get to me if I slipped.’ 

Head workers Hartemink and Roest react with shame when they are asked questions about Jur. They call what happened ‘deeply sad’. Roest knows that there were agreements at the time that Jur could not be sent out with a young worker. That Nathan was still paired with him ‘should never have happened’. Hartemink lived abroad at the time, while Roest did not yet have the responsibility that he has now, he says. 

He did inform a ‘leading brother’ of Jur’s behavior, shortly after the damage had been done to Nathan, he says. ‘Looking back, I think I should have been more courageous to keep raising the subject. Unfortunately, I didn’t keep raising it enough at the time.’ 

An information evening will be organised for members and ex-members in July 2024. It will be an intense meeting, where a number of victims will also speak. – image: Getty 

After the 2023 conference, the head workers are told that there was someone there (not a worker, but one of the ‘friends’) who had allegedly abused children, decades ago. The people who come forward are victims of this man. They have lived for years in the same community as the man accused of the abuse. Encouraged by the publicity about sexual abuse, they speak out afterwards. 

The Nederlands Dagblad also heard stories about this man six months later, but did not come into contact with any victims. There was written contact with his ex-wife, who divorced him many years ago. ‘I was eventually expelled from the community because I had remarried’, she recalls. Her ex-husband, with a new wife, was later able to become a member again. 

After the reports at the 2023 conference, the workers will talk to this person. In the summer of 2024, almost a year later, they will send out a letter stating that this man will no longer be welcome at meetings of the religious community. 

Hartemink and Roest assure that they did not know about the allegations of abuse until 2023. According to them, the fact that it took another year before he was expelled from the community is because an attempt was first made to speak to the perpetrator and victims under the guidance of an expert. That ultimately yielded too little. ‘He started to trivialize and deny again. Then we said that it was no longer possible to come to our meetings.’ 

More abuse

It is evening, somewhere in the mid-nineties. A worker, Bastiaan*, is visiting Maartje’s* family. He often visits them. Maartje is still a small child and when she has to go to bed, Bastiaan comes into her bedroom. He feels under the covers and touches her body, Maartje says. It is not the first time he has done this, and Maartje thinks that this behavior of his is normal. Now, some thirty years later, she still talks about it with reservations. She has tucked a lot away. Moreover, she does not want her story to be traceable, because many people do not know this about her. 

Maartje’s story is not the only report this newspaper receives about Bastiaan. Anna* also has a negative experience with him. She is already a teenager (but underage) when she meets Bastiaan in a place where no one else is. He kisses her on the mouth against her will. 

Due to the possible traceability of victims, another name was used for Bastiaan. The head workers were also not asked for a response to these abuse stories for that reason. The experiences of Anna and Maartje do indicate that abuse by workers in the Netherlands is not limited to Jur.  

“I felt like there was a crippled belief system at work.”

After the shock and initial embarrassment, the workers finally realize in 2023 that they have to do something with the abuse stories. People both inside and outside the community urge action. In 2024, an advisory group is set up in the community, confidants are appointed, and the workers take an online course to recognize and prevent sexual abuse. 

In July 2024, an information evening will also be organised for members and ex-members. It will be an intense meeting, where a number of victims will also speak. People urge action and the leaders promise to continue working on it, although they themselves do not always know how to approach it. An ex-member writes a personal account of the evening, in which she senses a great deal of helplessness. ‘I had the feeling that a crippled belief system was at work’, she writes. ‘A lot of apologies, but no actions.’

In an interview that the Nederlands Dagblad conducted in October 2024 at the request of the community with seven loyal members, they also responded to the abuse stories. It shocked them. At the same time, they felt that the management responded adequately. And, as one of them put it: ‘Can it be over for once? Is the provision of information still in proportion to the scale of the problem in our group? We need to put our arms around victims and have a sense of trauma. You can never do that enough. But we also need to move on.’ 

Doubts about visit to India

However, there are also major doubts about the actions of the main workers in the Netherlands, both among ex-members and some members. This became apparent when Martin Roest, one of the three main workers in the Netherlands, visited various conferences in Asia in the autumn, including India. In that country, two workers were accused of sexual abuse, but after an internal investigation about which there were many doubts, both were reinstated. 

How can the workers in the Netherlands say that they take sexual abuse seriously, when one of the main workers simply travels to India and shares the stage with workers who do not want an independent investigation into abuse? Not only ex-members approach Roest and the other workers with this question, many members are also critical. Nevertheless, Roest boards a plane to India at the end of November. At least two members leave the movement around that time. They see no real change within the community and miss transparency about the choices that are made. 

“If you come out with this, it will damage the group’s reputation and you will damage everyone.”

In response to questions about this from the Nederlands Dagblad, Hartemink and Roest state that they still support the decision to visit India. They disagree that they do not take the abuse stories in that country seriously. According to them, these problems are not solved by staying away from conferences. ‘Unfortunately, it is a fact that in almost every area or country there are individuals who need to be questioned’, they state in their response.

‘At the same time, there are also many in every area or country who sincerely desire to follow the Lord Jesus and receive encouragement for their inner life. By accepting the invitation, we have chosen to be available to those people.’

How was it possible that within the Two by Two (Twee aan Twee) movement so much sexual abuse was suddenly reported, which had been hidden for years? Care worker Arjan van Dijk also sees that in other places victims sometimes remain silent for a long time. But in closed groups there is something else, he explains: shame for the name of the community. ‘The group considers itself chosen. So if you come out with this, it is damaging to the good name of the group and you damage everyone. That is why in such groups people quickly opt for the cover-up, and the victim gets the lid on his nose, instead of something good being done with it.’

The full names of Ruud, Maartje, Anna and Bastiaan are known to the editors.  

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Would you like to talk about this article? For example, because you have (had) to deal with abuse yourself, or because you are worried about someone in your environment? You can share your story anonymously with a care provider via www.fier.nl/chat . From the summer of 2025, Fier will also have a special helpline for coercive groups or sects.

Netherlands Newspaper Article – Part 1

WINGS Note: Recently The Nederlands Dagblad, a Netherlands Newspaper, published two articles about the fellowship. They cover many topics but are published by WINGS for their content about CSA and factors that impact on the prevalence and treatment of CSA. Part 1 was published in Dutch at https://www.nd.nl/geloof/geloof/1252917/deze-sektarische-beweging-heeft-honderden-aanhangers-in-neder

WINGS post of Part 2 is available at Netherlands Newspaper Article – Part 2


This sectarian movement has hundreds of followers in the Netherlands. ‘We were lights in the world’

Almost nobody knows the Two by Two (Twee aan Twee) ‘church’. The community is under heavy fire internationally, due to stories of abuse, but what about in the Netherlands? The Nederlands Dagblad investigated this very closed religious community. For followers it seems like a safe haven, but ex-members tell how they struggle with the consequences of abuse, isolation and mental coercion.

Aaldert of Soest Friday, January 10, 2025, 11:00 AM modified January 30, 2025, 11:55 AM

He has given up everything. From now on he will have no possessions, no permanent place to live, and the most painful thing: he will lead a celibate life. Nathan* has become a ‘worker’ in the closed religious community in which he grew up. Together with an older companion he is sent out to preach the gospel, both to people within the community and to outsiders.   

This is part 1 of a two-part series. Part 2 will be published next week. Read at the bottom of this article why and how we conducted this research.

One year he is sent here, the next year there. The Netherlands is divided into a number of ‘fields’ for this purpose. He stays there with so-called friends. That is how it has been for years in this community: he has no influence on it, certainly not as a youngster. Nathan accepts it all, because for him the goal is sacred: this is the ultimate way to dedicate his life to God.

But the reality is disappointing, he says, looking back on that period, more than fifteen years ago. ‘We went on tea parties, and occasionally led a meeting. That was it. We hardly had any substantive discussions about faith. That was not appreciated. And I had given up my whole life for that.’ 

Richard Boom is one person who is willing to tell his story in full: ‘I would even like to, they should know who they are dealing with.’

When he starts asking critical questions, a conversation with the then head worker follows, in which Bible texts are thrown at him and he is accused of being a big mouth. The management then pairs him with another senior worker. This is someone who is actually not allowed to go out with younger men because of previous abuse – and this is known. Nathan is convinced that it is intended as punishment for his critical questions. ‘They did everything they could to destroy me’, he says. In the end, he ends up at home with a serious burnout.

Nathan’s story is not unique. There are ex-workers with similar experiences. ‘I was so belittled by an older companion that at one point I started taking sleeping pills during the day to cope,’ says Tim. 

‘I had to ask his permission for everything, even opening a car window. During visits he wanted me to be quiet and listen to him. He called people of color ‘blackies’. And during a conversation he talked about how colored people were a mistake in creation. I, as a colored person, had to listen to that. It’s all minor teasing, but if you’re never allowed to confront your older companion about it, it becomes too much.’ At the same time, he had a deep religious conviction during that period: for this work he had to be prepared to do anything. 

FBI investigation in America

The community, which has followers worldwide (estimates vary from 150,000 to 250,000), remained completely under the radar for a long time. That changed a year and a half ago, when stories emerged in the United States about large-scale child sexual abuse within this movement. Publications appeared in the media. A hotline was opened for victims, which now has 910 alleged perpetrators in its sights. And the FBI started an investigation in America.

In the Netherlands – and elsewhere on the European mainland – it remains deafeningly quiet. While the movement also has hundreds of followers in our country. The Nederlands Dagblad  delved into the Dutch section of this Two by Two (Twee aan Twee) movement. From conversations with dozens of people involved, a picture emerges of a very closed community, with deeply religious people. Ex-members tell almost without exception how they were damaged, isolated, and frightened by this. A number of them also tell about sexual abuse (more about that in a second article about this movement). 

“We needed salvation and it was only available through the Two by Two Church”

Most ex-members do not want their (full) names in the newspaper. The reason is that they still have family members in the religious community and are afraid that relationships will be at stake. Someone who does want to tell his story with his full name is Richard Boom: ‘I would like that, they should know who they are dealing with.’ 

He is furious with the movement that he and his mother became part of as a child and that, in his eyes, still keeps his mother under its thumb. She married someone from the community in the early nineties. Richard was sixteen at the time. He is completely fed up with what is clearly a cult to him (see also box: is this a cult?). As a teenager, he already doubted the message he heard, but at the same time he was afraid that it would land him in hell. ‘We were supposed to be a chosen people. You would be fine as long as you kept coming to the services.’ 

Fear of God’s punishment is a theme that regularly comes up in the conversations. Services often talked about how you can be lost, Julia* remembers. That fear of it would stay with her for a long time – even after she had left the community. Linda recognizes this image. ‘It was often about how we as people are weak and sinful’, she says. ‘So we needed salvation and that could only be obtained through the Two by Two church’. When she decided to leave that community, her mother called and said, crying: ‘Child, now you’re going to hell.’ She still finds it hard to think back on this now, more than twenty years later. Leaving is difficult, she says. ‘You completely lose the connection with the life you had built.’

The community, which has followers worldwide, remained completely under the radar for a long time. – image: Getty 

Those who come from the reformed world will recognize much in this community. Rules and appearances resemble the way conservative reformed people live their lives: women with long hair and in a skirt, no jewelry, no television. At the same time, there are differences. Reformed people are usually part of larger and recognizable churches. They also have their own schools, institutions, media and platforms on which opinions are exchanged. The Two by Two movement is more under the radar. Nothing is set in stone, because only the Bible counts, and there is resistance to books about faith. All guidelines are unwritten and run via the workers, who therefore seem to have an even greater position than reformed ministers in their own world. More about that position of power later.

Mystery about history

When did the movement start? That question goes back to Ireland, at the end of the nineteenth century. In this region, evangelist William Irvine breaks away from the missionary movement Faith Mission and starts something new. A passage from Matthew 10 plays a central role for him, where it is described that Jesus sends out his disciples two by two. 

That historical story is only known to the current followers of the religious community in small doses. Most former members only heard about it later in life, or they discovered it when they did their own research. ‘They used to tell me that this was a made-up story,’ says Joosje. 

Why this secrecy about history? It may have to do with the controversial figure of William Irvine himself. He was excommunicated in 1914 because he gave himself an increasingly higher status and had affairs with women. An even more frequently mentioned reason is that the moment of founding undermines the exclusivity of the community. Within the Two by Two movement there is a belief that it began at the moment that Jesus sent his disciples out into the world in pairs. From that moment on, this truth would have been passed on orally from generation to generation. A ‘foundation’ in the nineteenth century would cross that straight line from Jesus’ disciples to the present.

Anyone who left the community was ‘cut off from the body of Christ’, says Luuk.*

‘As a child I was told that the Catholic Church was a splinter group from our faith,’ says Linda. ‘There was also a lot of criticism of church buildings, with all their pomp and circumstance.’ 

The community itself meets on Sunday mornings in homes. Incidentally, it does not have an official name as a matter of principle. When Jesus sent out his disciples, the movement did not have a name either, is the reasoning. Former members sometimes refer to ‘the service’. Following international publications, this article chooses the designation Two by Two movement. 

‘Prepared for battle’

It is Sunday, July 21, 2024. Some 300 Two by Two (Twee aan Twee) supporters are together this weekend for their annual conference. There will be another weekend the following week. Women wear a skirt, most men wear long pants and a shirt. At the end of the afternoon, everyone gathers in a large tent for the evening service of that day. There are people of all ages in the tent, including at least ten to twenty small children. Some people have an earpiece in: they are guests from abroad who are getting Dutch translated.

When the commotion dies down, there is a capella singing from the community’s own collection. There are also prayers and two speeches. The second is given by Bart Hartemink, the main worker in the Netherlands. He walks through the entire Bible: from Zacchaeus to Jacob and Esau, from Elijah to Jesus with his disciples, and from there back to Job. The common thread: God has a plan for everyone’s life. He ends with the armor of God (Ephesians 6) and the importance of prayer. Because not only God has a plan, we also need a plan, he argues. ‘We must be prepared for the battle.’

Then follows a closing song: ‘God’s will is always good / And brings his blessing with it / If we surrender our plans / then his peace descends upon us.’ 

After the service, the Nederlands Dagblad reports to Hartemink, who is in charge of the community in our country. He is prepared to have a conversation. This takes place later that week with him and his colleague worker Martin Roest in a restaurant along the A28. When asked whether only followers of this religious community go to heaven, Hartemink answers negatively: ‘Salvation can only be achieved through Jesus and we do not have a monopoly on Jesus.’

‘I wasn’t allowed to think for myself. I see that as mental abuse.’

Yet almost all ex-members say that they experienced something different in the past. Marlies: ‘We were the only ones, the lights in the dark world. There might have been a single lost sheep of Jesus in another church. Yet that certainly did not apply to the church as a whole, because those people would then be drawn to the service.’ 

Anyone who left the community was ‘cut off from the body of Christ’, says Luuk*. He still remembers a moment during a Sunday morning service. ‘A woman said: ‘Anyone who leaves this community is cursed.’ It is really not true that everyone thinks like that. But she was not contradicted either.’

“It’s fair to say: there are those who think like that,” Hartemink acknowledges. “But it’s not true. We don’t have a monopoly on the truth, nobody does.” 

Sexually transgressive behavior

Back to Nathan’s story. When he asked critical questions, he was paired with an older companion (who has since passed away) who should not have been sent out with a young man again because of sexually transgressive behavior. The goal was to teach him a lesson, Nathan thinks, and the current head workers fully admit this when asked. Roest: ‘It should never have happened.’ 

Sexual abuse did not occur within that relationship, because Nathan did not give his older companion the chance. ‘I was not pleased and was a head taller. He did make all sorts of innuendos.’ A second article in this research production will delve deeper into sexual abuse, and the role this older worker played in it. 

Nathan does see himself as a victim of abuse of power and spiritual coercion. This not only concerns his time as a young worker, but also the period before and after. ‘I was not allowed to think for myself’, he summarizes. ‘Whether it was about certain habits, appearances or, more importantly, the way the Bible was used, the community attached more importance to the rules of the workers than to God’s word. From a young age I learned that it was not the intention to question the ideas and actions of the workers. I see that as spiritual abuse.’

A former member from abroad who is now a therapist specializing in domestic violence and child protection, says that since the publicity in America, many former members of the faith community have come to her. According to her, their stories reveal a pattern of emotional and spiritual abuse. ‘Particularly the misuse of Bible verses to make a point or to silence dissenting opinions.’

This difficulty with critical questions is also evident in another episode. Around 2020, a group of critical members formed within the Two by Two (Twee aan Twee) movement, calling themselves Siloam. They wrote a letter to the then Dutch head worker Hendrik Ferreira and two other European head workers, also called overseers (Ben Crompton from the United Kingdom and Peter Zürcher from Switzerland). In it, they asked all kinds of questions about the rules or about what they saw as radical positions, such as the refusal to baptize certain people or the ban on television.

“You are building this relationship on completely the wrong foundation.”

In the response letter, which is in the possession of this newspaper, the overseers make it clear to the members of Siloam that they count on their obedience and loyalty. For example, in a passage about baptism, which shows that workers sometimes determine that someone is not yet ready to be baptized. ‘We as workers may not always make the decision that you would make as friends, but the person concerned (the person being baptized, ed.) will never suffer loss if that decision is accepted.’ 

Elsewhere in this response letter it talks about the Wednesday night meetings. ‘We all want to be encouraged, admonished or corrected, don’t we? These meetings should not be turned into a meeting for discussing issues or bringing up personal matters.’

The overseers from the United Kingdom, Switzerland and Germany go even further in a letter from 2023, in which questions are raised about the appointment of Bart Hartemink as leader in the Netherlands. The ordinary members are not supposed to interfere with that procedure. ‘The friends have always left the changing of an overseer to the older workers’, they write. ‘You may disagree with that, as well as with our interpretation of Acts 15 and 16, but we will not discuss that.’ 

In an interview with this newspaper, chief workers Hartemink and Roest admit that workers within the community have sometimes abused their power. ‘That is not what we advocate’, they emphasize. ‘Acts 15 states that the elders and the entire congregation made a decision together. Unfortunately, you have to conclude that this has not always happened among us.’

Another example of this abuse of power: a correspondence between a prominent worker and a young woman. She has entered into a relationship with someone who does not belong to the community and therefore does not attend Sunday services. An older worker contacts her about this. He writes that the friends and the workers together form ‘the body of Christ’, and that choosing her boyfriend is in fact a choice against Jesus. ‘You are building this relationship on a completely wrong foundation’, he adds. ‘If you continue with that, you are going to have a hard life.’ 

Horrible, Roest admits. ‘We are allowed to advise if people ask for it, but we cannot enforce anything.’ 

Appreciation for simplicity

There is also another perspective. Namely that of religious people, who belong to this community with heart and soul, and for whom the critical media attention is painful. After a request from the community itself, this newspaper will talk to a group of seven loyal members. They each tell how precious the community is to them. They hear God’s voice in it, feel his Spirit, experience security and connection with each other. 

The house meetings on Sunday morning (see also box) are especially important to them. They appreciate the ‘simplicity’ of the community. ‘Precisely because it is not about a name, a building, a payroll with employees, something else becomes central’, says one of them. ‘Namely the connection with God.’

They dare not say whether their community is the only true one. ‘It is not up to us to decide that.’ However, in this conversation it is said twice that this community comes ‘closest to the Bible’. That does not mean that everything has to stay the same. This community is also developing, they emphasize. ‘My daughters simply wear trousers when there are workers in the house.’

That last remark is a reaction to the mandatory rules and appearances that many ex-members encountered. Dress codes, no make-up, no going to school parties. ‘At one point, we were even told that we were not allowed to read comic books anymore’, Joosje remembers. ‘I found that terrible, because I devoured Donald Ducks.’ 

‘They spat at me and called me a dirty skirt-wearer.’

These rules were emphasized, and women in particular were addressed. A number of sources start – independently – about former head worker Piet Blokker, who gave a speech about dress codes. ‘It was 30 degrees, but even three-quarter sleeves were not allowed’, says Richard. A number of women also say that workers addressed them about the length of their skirts or sleeves. Angela* remembers that she once came home from gym class at school, wearing jeans. There were workers visiting. ‘I was planning to change at home. But one of the workers, who saw me in trousers, started crying because of it. I felt guilty about that at the time.’

At school – they all attended public or broad Christian education – they did not always have it easy because of their religious background. Many ex-members talk about bullying. Women suffered the most. ‘They spat at me and called me a dirty skirt-wearer’, says Julia.

Bullying was less common as the children led double lives. ‘At school I was someone different than at home or in the service. I couldn’t bring those worlds together’, says Auke*. 

Every summer the community in the Netherlands gathers at a conference site. – image: Getty 

Tim, on the other hand, took his faith so seriously as a child that he consciously started behaving differently from his classmates from the fifth grade onwards. ‘I didn’t laugh at jokes, didn’t go to children’s parties, didn’t participate in extracurricular activities and avoided crushes. I felt guilty when I joined the group, because I had to be ‘different’.’ When they talked about it, children were told that they had to put up with the bullying. ‘It was part of it. You would get rewarded for it in heaven.’

Worker Martin Roest finds it distressing to hear stories of bullying. At the same time, he adds, that is the reality in schools. ‘I don’t want to trivialize it, but children are hard on each other. The fact that you are a Christian can be a reason for being ridiculed.’ He himself had that experience in primary school. ‘But fortunately my parents handled that very well.’ 

From farmers to scientists

The Two by Two (Twee aan Twee) community is very diverse in background and education level: from farmers to scientists, from construction workers to a pilot, a manager in the financial sector, or a spokesperson in political The Hague. Of course, they are not all yes-nodding followers of the workers. The international media attention leads to the necessary unrest and discussion internally, and some drop out.

The head workers indicate that there are still around 600 people affiliated with the community in the Netherlands (‘although we do not keep a membership list’), but some ex-members estimate that there are now only around 400 left. 

“I had to rediscover my whole identity as a Christian.”

Some ex-members have come out relatively unscathed, while others still say they suffer from it – even after many hours of therapy. ‘It took me years to break free from the influence of this group’, says Auke. ‘And when I hear songs from the collection, an irrational fear still comes over me.’

Some ex-members ended up in a more open Christian community, where a world of faith opened up for them. ‘I had to rediscover my entire identity as a Christian’, says Sanne*. She points out that within the religious community it is not taught that Jesus is God, and she actually finds that the most reprehensible thing. ‘Because of that I never really understood the Christian gospel.’ 

Others have abandoned all forms of religion, or found an alternative way of believing. Auke: ‘I can’t do anything with the Bible’s image of God anymore. It has been destroyed, because I associate it with that time and that group.’

*The names of Nathan, Julia, Angela, Luuk, Auke and Sanne are fictitious. The other first names in the article are their real names. All full names are known to the editors.  

Two by Two Movement in Five Characteristics

■ Workers and friends

The members of the community are called ‘friends’. They are not officially members of anything. The leaders are called ‘workers’. They give up all their possessions, must live celibate lives and are sent out in pairs to a region, where they usually stay with friends. Women can also become workers (the so-called sister workers), but the leader of a country or region (the ‘overseer’) is always a man. 

■ Baptism and making ‘the choice’

There are two moments when people can consciously connect to the community. For example, you can make ‘the choice’ at a young age. This means that you stand up in a special meeting and indicate that you choose God and this community. This often happens at a relatively young age: 8 to 12 years old. In addition, friends are baptized as ‘adults’, but they are usually still teenagers. This always happens during the annual conference.

■ Various services

The heart of the community is the Sunday morning service. About ten to twelve people come together in a house. There is singing, prayer, and those who have made ‘the choice’ all share something from the Bible. Communion is celebrated every Sunday. There are also ‘gospel services’ on Sunday evening or during the week. These are led by workers and take place in a small room. Although there is not much advertising, these services are open to outsiders. In the summer there is a conference for the entire community in the Netherlands. 

■ Finances and foundation

The workers live without possessions, and are supported by the friends. Although workers have a bank account, this is usually done via envelopes with contents. Around the annual conference they hand in whatever they may have ‘left over’, and each worker starts again with an amount that is sufficient to live on for the first period. Although it is almost impossible to find – the movement has no website or clear address – the Nederlands Dagblad came across the Stichting Algemeen Beheer Baten en Verwinstingen after some research. This foundation manages money for those who are called to ‘do the gospel work as intended in, among other things, Matthew 10’ (the chapter in which Jesus sends out his disciples two by two, ed.). The foundation manages money from legacies, among other things, but it is not clear how much money is involved. There are no indications that people are getting rich from it.

■ International character

The Two by Two movement is a worldwide religious community. There are countries with many followers (such as Scotland, Ireland, the United States and Australia), but it can be found in many countries and on all continents. Conferences are organised in all these countries or regions, which are also attended by many foreign workers and friends. The community has a relatively high number of international marriages, because in this way people sometimes meet a foreign life partner from their own religious community. 

Is this a cult?

Publications in the media usually refer to the Two by Two (Twee aan Twee) movement as a sect (in English sect or cult). Although this article does not take this qualification for its own account, various characteristics of a sectarian movement can be recognized, Arjan van Dijk states after reading this article. Van Dijk used to work for the government agency Sektesignaal and is now helping the expertise center Fier to set up a new help center for sects and closed groups. Experts use five main characteristics, Van Dijk explains: excessive dedication, a closed character, authoritarian leadership, coercive control over members, and damage to the individual or society. He clearly reads some characteristics, such as the closed character and excessive dedication. With other characteristics – such as authoritarian leadership – the picture is ambivalent. 

The more sects or groups meet the five characteristics mentioned, the more often abuses occur, says Van Dijk. This can involve criminal acts such as sexual abuse, financial exploitation or labor exploitation and withholding medical care. Sometimes there is also psychological abuse such as alienating family or friends, denying individuality, extinguishing critical thinking, manipulation and peer pressure. ‘We also encounter these abuses in the ongoing research that we are doing at Fier in preparation for the help center that is to be set up.’

About this research

Why did we investigate this?

In the past year and a half, alarming reports about the Two by Two (Twee aan Twee) movement have appeared in international media, such as the Associated Press (AP) and the British broadcaster BBC. Former members came forward with harrowing stories of mental and sexual abuse. But these articles said nothing about the Netherlands or the European mainland, while the movement also has followers there. After contact with a former member, the Nederlands Dagblad decided to conduct an investigation to bring possible abuses in the Netherlands to light. We want to do justice to possible victims by hearing their story and making problems discussable. The dynamics in the Two by Two (Twee aan Twee) movement are also relevant to a broader target group. The Netherlands has an estimated 80 to 250 sects or closed religious communities. Moreover, some dynamics, such as abuse of power and mental coercion, are also visible in regular churches.

How did we investigate this?

For this research, the Nederlands Dagblad spoke extensively with fourteen Dutch ex-members of the Two by Two (Twee aan Twee) movement. The responsible workers were also interviewed and a group discussion was held with seven members involved. Various books have been published internationally about the movement, mostly written by ex-members. The only Dutch-language publications about this community are by Jildert de Boer, who followed the community intensively for a period as an outsider. His books were consulted for this article and the ND also spoke with De Boer himself. Finally, the newspaper spoke to foreign parties involved, including the American founders of a reporting center for sexual abuse within this movement.

Would you like to share something about life in a closed (Christian) community with the research editors in response to this article? Then visit nd.nl/onderzoek to find out how to contact us (confidentially). You can also email the author directly via vansoest@nd.nl . 

Doug Morse email and response

WINGS Note: A reader received the following email from Doug Morse and felt compelled to respond. Her reply follows below.
Doug’s letter was posted at Letter from Doug Morse


On Sat, 25 Jan 2025 at 19:53, Douglas Morse [email redacted]> wrote:

Hello [names redacted],    

I did not here back from you last week, and I was too sad … ashamed … to try again. But this weekend I am sending out a letter to folks who I feel I must contact. You are on this list of course.  One day we will chat again, I’m sure.

You can’t imagine how humbled to the dust I feel in writing this awkward communication to people I deeply care for. However, I am wanting to communicate to folks, and feel the responsibility to do so, on a personal level. I feel compelled to express my feelings to you directly.

First, and foremost … you have not been betrayed my friends. This is a great test, not just for myself but all who have known me.  I’d ask you to please not be hasty in judging me solely on the man who failed miserably sometime in the 80’s. That is not the man you have come to trust in and care for. We believe in the power of God to transform and recreate. I hope and believe you have seen and felt this over the years you have known me. What I have represented to you in recent decades as far as conviction and character is genuine.

I will attach the letter I have put together. In the next day or so this will be sent individually to a number of people as I want to do it on a personal level. I do not wish to have it broadcast over the grapevine or internet. However if someone I have not sent this to would like clarification you may read it to them with discretion.

I am very sorry on behalf of the man that has disappointed many people because of his past. I find peace in being able to assure you that man is not the one you know now.

respectively, in God’s mercy …. Doug


 From: [name and email redacted]
Date: Tue, Jan 28, 2025, 11:30 p.m.
Subject: Re: from me, to you
To: Douglas Morse

Hello Doug

I feel compelled to answer your email as honestly as possible, and the most effective way for me to do that, I think, is to address a few things you said, starting with:

“First, and foremost … you have not been betrayed my friends.”

I beg to differ. You have spent the better part of two years having heart-to-heart conversations with folks like myself who are openly advocating for CSA survivors. You have listened to us pouring out our grief over having our trust shattered by the ministry that we have respected so highly, and you have even asked for our input on documents relating to this crisis. You have had over thirty years to come clean, and these past two years, you have been confronted time and again with opportunities to do so, and you have chosen not to. So, yes, we have been betrayed once again, but it feels worse this time because we allowed you into our vulnerable space.

“I am very sorry on behalf of the man that has disappointed many people because of his past. I find peace in being able to assure you that man is not the one you know now.”

I find it odd that you have referred to yourself in the third person here, I wonder if it’s because you’re trying to disassociate yourself from the reality that you, Doug Morse, committed CSA against a minor.

That feeling carried through when I read your “accountability” document.

You refer to the Child Sexual Assault you committed as: “an incident of misconduct “; “inappropriate” and even “a brief event”

I am amazed, and heartsick that, after all we’ve gone through in this Fellowship, and after all you yourself have expressed about it, that you would minimize the crime of sexual assault in this way.

“I took ownership on the accusation as I did then.” How Doug? What did “taking ownership” look like for you? Did you admit what you had done to anyone – the boy’s parents? Did you turn yourself into the law, seek help to control your urges, step down from a place of trust and authority? No, you didn’t – you did the following: “When it happened the two of us addressed the situation immediately whereby I took full responsibility and expressed remorse.  We agreed that it was satisfactorily resolved.”  This was one of the most alarming parts of your accountability document – which part of being abused does the victim need to “address”? Did you feel “the situation” was something he was partly responsible for? Again, I’m struggling to understand how you could possibly feel that you “took full responsibility” for the crime you committed against this minor.

“we have remained friends” – CSA has profound and lasting impacts on a person, I’m sure this young man carries scars from this “brief event” even if, from your perspective, you see him as your friend.

“I do not know why it has been brought forward recently after all this time.” And yet you’ve witnessed historical CSA cases coming out of the woodwork these past two years and even expressed that it was good these things are being exposed. Why would it be any different in this case?

“I will continue to practice what I have implemented the past 35 years but with an even greater diligence.”  What practices have you implemented? I, along with many other moms, have hosted many young people’s evenings when you’ve been in town because you’ve been the worker who packs the games; you’ve been the worker who takes the teenage boys to squash games, hiking etc etc – you’ve surrounded yourself with kids all through the decades. I’m not sure I’d call that being careful.

Doug, I’m trying to come to terms with the shock and heartbreak that the news of your CSA has brought to our family and many others ….. it’s not a matter of unforgiveness or a lack of mercy, but as you yourself expressed in a previous document you asked for my input on, and I quote:

“Child abuse is a sin and a crime, and as a crime, it is a societal problem. We must understand that forgiveness does not mean a lack of accountability or punishment for the evildoer.
The act of justice actually demonstrates the biblical love of neighbor. In fact, reporting sexual abuse is an act of love. In condemning an abuser’s actions, society vindicates survivors as being wronged by their offenders.
Reporting a crime can also be an act of love for the broader community because it prevents the abuser from harming others. And it can be an act of love toward the abuser, as it holds him or her accountable and invites repentance.
True reconciliation, when it is possible, requires fully acknowledging the evil of the abuse and the harm it causes, displaying active repentance of the evil done, and offering restitution to the victim. These actions do not impede reconciliation; they are prerequisites for it. If offenders refuse to be confronted with their abuse, it suggests they have not fully come to terms with their victims’ dignity, the evil they have done, and the pain they have caused.”

I couldn’t agree more with what you wrote here, I hope you read through these words you put together, and find the willingness to take them to heart, and put them into practice. I wish you well in this effort and I do hope you can find your way forward with honesty.

Yours in His mercy

[Name redacted]

Letter from Doug Morse

WINGS Note: A reader has sent us this letter from Doug Morse, with their comments inserted [marked Comment: and styled italic].
Morse was in the work from 1982 to 2023 in Canada (BC, Alberta and The Maritimes). There are multiple allegations against him.


CONFIDENTIALITY – DO NOT FORWARD THIS COMMUNICATION ON – OTHERS ARE RECEIVING THIS INDIVIDUALLY.

Comment: For multiple generations now, this CONFIDENTIALITY has been used as a disguise to cover up a multitude of behaviors that are immoral and illegal to try and salvage a person’s reputation along with the church reputation.  Doug, that boat has long since sailed and based on the allegations against you, as well as your admittance to allegations, everyone connected to this church should know exactly where you stand.

Accountability

Definition: an obligation or willingness to accept responsibility or to account for ones actions.

Comment: When reading this definition of accountability, it is a true definition, however the words following don’t backup the definition of Accountability.
MISCONDUCT Definition – unacceptable or bad behavior by someone in a position of authority or responsibility.
CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE Definition – Child sexual abuse, also called child molestation, as a form of child abuse in which an adult uses a child for sexual stimulation.

I feel terrible … as I should, for the distress I have caused others. I have no one to blame except myself.

Comment: It is interesting that you start this letter with how you feel along with looking for a place to put your blame, yet realizing you come up short.  How do you feel about the child whom you violated?  This is not about blame, this is about accountability, remember?

This letter is meant to clarify what has recently transpired. Last week I was approached to answer for an incident of misconduct 36 years ago.

Comment: Doug, I think it is important to call a spade a spade.  You will see that I added a few other definitions to the header of your letter.   A misconduct is when you stole some kids mascara, or filled your car with fuel from a company fleet card.  What you were approached to answer about wasn’t an incident of misconduct!!  You were called to answer about an incident of Child Sexual Abuse 36 years ago.

I took ownership on the accusation as I did then. It was a brief event where I was inappropriate while in a place of authority. The individual was under the age of legal consent being 17 at the time.

Comment: It is a good thing to hear that you have taken ownership, although your word choice here is interesting in the fact that you still call it an “accusation”.  If you had of taken ownership of this event, 36 years ago, as you state in this paragraph that you did, you would have reported this to the minor’s parents, the ministry and the law.  You would have removed yourself from a place of authority, and done your time in the correctional and legal arena.  You have fooled yourself Doug, into thinking that you have taken ownership and accountability for these actions.  Another thing that is EXTREMELY telling is how you have minimized this CSA as a “Brief Event” with an “individual under the age of legal consent being 17 at the time”.  For that CHILD who you sexually abused, this wasn’t a “Brief Event”.  This was a LIFE CHANGING event that they have carried with them since that fateful day you abused them!   You were the adult, they were the child and it doesn’t matter if they were 7 years old or 17 years old.

When it happened the two of us addressed the situation immediately whereby I took full responsibility and expressed remorse. We agreed that it was satisfactorily resolved. And for the next 36 years we have remained friends and in contact without ever speaking of my failure that day. I do not know why it has been brought forward recently after all this time but except it as the will of God.

Comment: Doug, I think you pride yourself as a bright man. To see you think that anything in this paragraph has any validity to it is quite laughable.  When someone, in a place of power, sexually abuses a child, there is no equality of power where “the two of us” could equally address a situation of CSA.  I also question if your expression of remorse was actually a fear of this child saying something and you getting caught.  As a survivor of CSA, I can speak with authority that this “friendship” you have had over the last 36 years with this child you abused is NOT a friendship, it is an Abuser/Victim relationship.  The last sentence in this paragraph exposes your true stance on CSA.  For you to say that you do not know WHY it has been brought forward is very telling about your deep seeded stance on CSA.  After all that has been hidden and “swept under the rug” for the last several generations, which you have been masquerading as an advocate for the last few years, one would think that it would be EXTEMELY clear to you why this CSA is being brought to light.  I do agree that this is of God.  God brings to light, all that is hidden.  Can you imagine, how this person who you sexually abused 36 years ago feels as they watch you present to this group of hurt and wounded church members, who have trusted you, a persona of an innocent man? 

I have voluntarily stepped away from any church community functions and must now live my remaining days in such a way as to prove the past 3+ decades represent the person God wants me to be.

Comment: I have so many thoughts here.  Doug, you have deceived many people by your lack of transparency.  People who have been already hurt and injured.  You have taken from people their kindness, their love, their trust.

I have also been instructed to ‘reinvent’ my life from this point on which requires safe and firm parameters in my personal relationships. I will continue to practice what I have implemented the past 35 years but with an even greater diligence.

Comment: You have also been given some other instructions.  You have been asked to “Do the right thing and turn yourself in!”  Report to the RCMP, in the community the CSA took place and let them know what you did.  Once, you have done that, you can look at your reinvention.

Once again, I am grieved at the distress and hurt and disappointment I have brought to so many of you.
My earnest prayer is for the healing ministry of Christ Jesus to bring peace to the church community, those ministering, victims and even for myself.

Comment: Doug, at no point in this communication have you stated your grief and distress and hurt that you have brought to the child you sexually abused.  At no point have you expressed your grief, distress and hurt and disappointment at your breech of authority.  It seems like you are grieved, at the distress and hurt and disappointment you have brought to so many people because of how it is going to affect YOUR future.

I have sincerely sought to be a part of a solution to the sorrow of recent years in our church community.
With this matter at hand God has conveyed to me that I am not the man to do this, no matter how good my intentions have been.

Comment: Doug, you have deceived yourself to believe that you have sought to be part of a solution to the sorrow in recent years in our church community.  If you had been honest with yourself, you would have been transparent in your past behavior, not kept it in a box hoping that no one would find out.  You would not have roamed this province masquerading as an innocent man.

Please except this poor effort to express what I am feeling in my heart.

Comment: I do accept this poor effort as an expression of how you feel in your heart.  This letter expresses very clearly that you are very sorry that you have been outed.  It has also expressed your lack of remorse towards the child you sexually abused and the vast number of people who you enticed and beguiled to support you emotionally and naturally over the last few years, as well as your many decades in the ministry.

Doug Morse

* I must also acknowledge the great measure of kindness and trust many of you have shown me these past decades, unworthy of such as I am. And even the Christian kindness extended my way this past week, so greatly appreciated and needed.

* Psalm 51 was my experience years ago. I believe I have reflected God’s grace since then, demonstrating to His Glory, what He can accomplish in broken, repentant lives.

* I have been in touch directly with some of you and will reach out more in the days ahead. Currently I am trying to find a place to live, and just keep my head above water. Your patience is valued.

Bridges & Balm Seasonal Appeal for Funds

WINGS Note: With the upcoming dissolution of the AFTT group who have been very active in supporting therapy assistance to CSA survivors, other groups have stepped up to fill the void.   Bridges and Balm is one such group.   B&B are limited to the US at this time but hope to expand to other countries.  They are able to issue tax receipts to US citizens.

The anonymous offer to match individual new donations up to $200/person is very generous and a great opportunity to double one’s efforts to help survivors.

Bridges and Balm demonstrate financial accountability here:

https://www.bridgesandbalm.org/funds-overview-activity

Donations can be directed to
Both Funds
Resting/Transitioning Worker Fund
Child Sexual Abuse/Sexual Abuse
Whichever Fund Needs it Most


DONATE Here

Donate Now and Have Your Donation Matched!

Our fellowship has always been built on informal support and mutual care. But today, the challenges facing our vulnerable members have grown more complex and urgent. Bridges & Balm emerged as a response to these evolving needs—a structured lifeline for those who have experienced the deepest wounds and most profound transitions. 

The holiday season is a wonderful time to consider our broader fellowship family. Bridges & Balm stands as a beacon of hope for survivors of sexual abuse and transitioning workers who need critical support during difficult times. Bridges & Balm is a charity that focuses on the fellowship community and provides an ongoing external funding mechanism dedicated both helping survivors of CSA/SA find compassionate care and healing they desperately need as well as assisting transitioning and resting workers with their basic living expenses. 

Your support matters – and now it can go twice as far!

Now is a great time to contribute to those in need! 

  • Donate once, make twice the impact: An anonymous Bridges & Balm donor will match donations from new donors through the rest of 2024 (up to $200 per donor). You can donate once and make twice the impact! 
  • Tax benefits: Donations to Bridges & Balm qualify for 2024 tax deductions through Dec 31. We are a 501(c)(3) tax exempt charity, and donations to Bridges & Balm can reduce your taxable income for those who itemize deductions.

In the coming year, our focus will remain on helping resting and transitioning workers with basic living expenses and survivors with therapy costs, often collaborating with other survivor charities to maximize our impact. With recent changes at AFTT and WANIDAK, we anticipate a significant increase in demand for survivor therapy assistance in 2025 from Bridges and Balm.  For a review of 2024 and our 2025 initiatives, please see our latest blog post

The holiday season presents unique challenges for our community members who are alone, facing financial hardship, or dealing with trauma. Your year-end donations can make double the difference while potentially qualifying for tax benefits. We hope you will support us in our goal to help those with unmet needs in our fellowship community. 

For more information, please visit the Bridges & Balm Website.  

Clyde T. Corneille convicted and placed on sex offender registry

Clyde T. Corneille, a professing man in Louisiana, was convicted on 10/21/2024 on the charge of indecent behavior with juveniles.

Clyde was given a 5 year suspended sentence (meaning he does not serve time in prison unless he offends again within a given period of time), 3 years probation, and permanent placement on the sex offender registry.

Clyde was originally arrested for this offense in October of 2020. He was allowed by Louisiana overseer Robert Eberhardt to attend Effie convention in 2021 and 2022. Robert was aware of the allegations against Clyde. Those in attendance were not informed by church leadership about Clyde’s arrest and pending charges. In 2023 he was asked not to attend convention due to increased pressure from concerned church members.

Additionally, Robert allowed Clyde to attend fellowship meetings after his arrest and made no attempt to inform members of his meetings until pressured to do so several years after his initial arrest.

Ministry Financial Priorities – Survivor Support is Urgently Needed

Survivors of child sexual abuse (CSA) have often suffered silently for many years. Many haven’t been believed when they did report the abuse, or felt that they wouldn’t be believed, or were deliberately told to keep quiet. If disclosure occurs eventually, recognition that the abuse did occur and caused significant harm can be an early step in healing but in many cases trauma requires professional therapy.

Therapy is funded by state agencies or insurance in certain countries, but usually only to a limited extent and only in narrow circumstances. In some countries, therapy is very expensive. WINGS is aware of one ex-worker requiring therapy that is likely to cost $35-50,000.

Individual cases may justify differing levels of ministry funding. e.g.

1. Where abuses occurred in circumstances under ministry control: up to 100% of funding as needed by survivors:

  • abuse by workers;
  • abuse that occurred at conventions, special meetings, gospel meetings, and fellowship meetings;
  • where any abuses were known by the ministry but action was not taken.

2. Church-related abuse. Partial funding:

  • abuse by church members upon church members;
  • abuse by elders vetted and selected by the Church should attract higher amounts of partial funding.

3. Non-Church related abuse. Optional funding:

  • abuse by non-Church members upon Church members.

The ministry is widely believed to control significant funds, millions of dollars in some states. In a limited number of regions, the ministry has contributed to funding for therapy. However, most overseers have generally refused to provide financial support for victims of CSA, on the basis that:

  • The ministry is not an organisation, therefore they are not responsible;
  • They have no money;
  • The funds were donated for the maintenance of the workers, not for any other purpose, (although funds have been used for the maintenance and upgrade of convention grounds).

Many friends and some workers have provided financial support to CSA victims, either privately or through organisations such as Washington/North Idaho/Alaska Fund, Oregon/South Idaho Fund, AFTT, and more recently, Bridges & Balm, and United Open Arms. See Guide to Therapy Funds. WINGS understand that funds are likely to be exhausted in a few months given ongoing needs.

Friends are aware that international travel by workers, such as for convention tours, costs a lot but is readily funded by the ministry. Some believe that it is past time for the ministry to prioritize supporting victim survivors with ongoing therapy needs. This may include cancelling or curtailing ministry funded travel, at least for a few years, and to divert the funds to therapy for victim survivors.

Right now, the best way to support the ministry is to support groups who are helping survivors of abuse, both by encouraging worker funds to be provided and by also making private donations to these organisations.

The following analysis was forwarded to The Brave Truth Australia & New Zealand. WINGS thought it important information to share. The analysis was created by survivors to highlight the stunning cost of travel to have keynote speakers at conventions in Australia & New Zealand, and the number of therapy sessions that could have been funded instead. The same exercise could be undertaken for travel in all other regions.

From the people who gathered this information…

Footnote: Purpose of this exercise

To highlight the huge cost of moving workers around during convention season and to respectfully pause to consider being victim centric and channel funds towards mental and emotional wellbeing, and support for those who have been minimised and/or forgotten. To also counter the many horrible abuses, coverups and deceit which have been costly, more than money could afford or fix.

Putting victim care as a priority, would be an act of goodwill and honest acknowledgement and a first step in the right direction of love and likeness to Jesus.

The cost of flights: A ballpark figure only and were calculated using, in most instances, the most direct flight to/from home port then subsequent internal flights using low to average economy class fares. Not all travel legs and not all workers had flight costs due to travelling partly or exclusively by car.

There would be additional costs such as travel insurance, stopovers, domestic flights in home country etc.

Many may also have onward flights and costs for further convention routes, costs of which are impossible to calculate. This was an estimate of the AUS/NZ component only, then home again.

How would we administrate and accomplish the distribution of funds for mental health care and psychological support, amongst a group so broad and so broken?

That would be step two – we’ve missed step one.

In the interest of transparency, please disseminate widely, for open respectful discussion and for quiet personal honest self-examination and reflection.

Former elder Raymond Zwiefelhofer sentenced to 120 years in prison

WINGS Note: Multiple sentences are served consecutively, not concurrently, in Arizona.


https://abcnews.go.com/US/member-secretive-christian-sect-sentenced-120-years-prison/story?id=116460154

Member of secretive Christian sect sentenced to 120 years in prison

Raymond Zwiefelhofer was convicted of possessing child sexual abuse material.

ByLauren Lantry December 7, 2024, 2:01 AM

Former elder of secretive 2×2 Christian sect sentenced to 120 years in prison

An ABC News investigation into the 2×2 Church, a Christian sect so secretive most people have never heard of it, has uncovered allegations of child sexual abuse and coverups.

An ABC News yearlong investigation into the 2×2 Church, a Christian sect so secretive most people have never heard of it, has uncovered allegations of widespread child sexual abuse and subsequent coverups.

During the investigation, ABC News spoke with dozens of alleged victims of child sexual abuse across more than 30 states.

Photo – Arizona Department of Corrections, Rehabilitation & Reentry

As part of the ongoing investigation by law enforcement, Raymond Zwiefelhofer was convicted of 10 counts of possessing child sexual abuse material and was sentenced to 120 years in prison last month.

“In total, there were 87 files that were determined to be child sexual abuse material or sometimes known as child pornography,” Catherine Fu, a Maricopa Deputy County Attorney, told ABC News. “The 10 charged files were a combination of photos and videos, and they were all depicting children under the age of 15 engaged in either exploitive exhibition or sexual conduct.”

Zwiefelhofer, 61, maintains his innocence.

He was a tech CEO in Arizona, but he was also a member of the 2×2 Church, according to ex-members ABC News spoke to. He was an elder in the community on and off for decades.

“I’m not guilty. Again, I like to get that – make that clear,” Zwiefelhofer said during his sentencing hearing. “I would love to know how the jury found that I knowingly did this.”

ABC News reached out to Zwiefelhofer’s attorney multiple times for comment and did not hear back.

“An elder leads a group of members in their home through church services,” Cynthia Liles, a private investigator, told ABC News. “I would say there are almost always children present in the home meetings.”

MORE: Secretive Christian sect ignored sexual abuse for decades, congregants allege

Nationwide, it is illegal to possess child sexual abuse material. The minimum sentencing in Arizona is 10 years for one count. Zwiefelhofer was sentenced to 12 years for each count. “The 2×2 Church has a significant problem with child sexual abuse,” Liles said. “It’s systemic.”

Liles has been looking into allegations of abuse within the insular community for years, and says she works regularly with the FBI.

“I have notified the FBI of over a thousand accounts of child sex abuse and sex assault within the 2×2 Church community,” Liles told ABC News.

A group photo at a 2×2 Church convention in the early 1900s.
Courtesy of Cherie Kropp-Ehrig

What makes the 2×2 Church so unique is the way it operates. Ministers of the church, known as workers, live with members in their homes, usually for a few days at a time.

Many former members ABC spoke with say some of the church leadership knew about abuse allegations, but did not report it to the proper authorities. Instead, the leadership would often move alleged abusers to different states.

While there is no singular head of the church, ABC News did reach out to overseers – the dozen or so men in charge of the community. While ABC News did not hear back from the overseer of Arizona who oversaw Zwiefelhofer, the former and current overseers with whom ABC News did speak all denied that widespread sexual abuse has been taking place within the 2×2 community.

The FBI announced their investigation into the 2×2 Church in February, encouraging anyone who thinks that they might be a victim to come forward with information.

In a rare and exclusive interview in June, ABC News sat down with the FBI.

Eugene Kowel, Special Agent in Charge of the FBI’s Omaha Field Office, is leading the worldwide investigation into the organization known by outsiders as the Two by Two church.

“Let’s say you arrest one person, two people. Is that it?” ABC News’ Kyra Phillips asked.

“The FBI focuses, in general, on bringing cases from local to global,” Gene Kowel, the Special Agent in Charge of the investigation, said. “The FBI doesn’t stop at just an initial arrest. We will follow the evidence wherever it leads.”

“Raymond Zwiefelhofer is one of most likely thousands,” Liles said. “We’re getting reports of child sex abuse and sex assault committed by the highest level in leadership down to the regular members.”

“Hopefully there will be more arrests and convictions coming,” Liles said.


October 3, 2024 report of conviction:
https://www.12news.com/article/news/crime/jury-convicts-former-valley-tech-company-president-exploiting-children-2024/75-f694f01b-1898-4156-83b2-ef22f430fa45

New Zealand ex-worker jailed for 13 years

WINGS Note:
Bill Easton was a worker in the folowing areas:
1967 Hauraki Plains
1968 Waikato
1969 South Taranaki
1970 Auckland
1071 Central Otago
1972 Auckland
1973 Southland
1974 South Canterbury
1975 Wellington
Willie Phyn and Nathan McCarthy were the senior workers at the time Easton left the work with the advice “in strong terms to marry quickly and start a family.” Church members were not advised why Easton was removed from the work.


Northland man jailed for 13 years over historic sexual abuse of six boys

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/535890/northland-man-jailed-for-13-years-over-historic-sexual-abuse-of-six-boys

5:01 pm on 6 December 2024  Amy Williams, Journalist amywilliamsnz amy.williams@rnz.co.nz

William Stephen Easton, known as Bill Easton, in the dock at the Kaikohe District Court today. Photo: RNZ / Amy Williams

  • A former minister of an underground sect has been sentenced to 13 years in prison after pleading guilty to multiple charges
  • The charges are of historical child sex abuse spanning four decades
  • The religious group known as the Two by Twos, or The Truth, is also under investigation by the FBI for historical child sexual abuse

Warning: This story covers sexual abuse of multiple victims.

A Kerikeri man who abused six boys in repeated, premeditated offending while he was part of an underground sect has been sentenced to 13 years in prison.

William Stephen Easton, known as Bill Easton, has been sentenced in the Kaikohe District Court on 55 charges related to historic sexual offending against children.

The 80 year old was a minister of the Two by Twos, also known as The Truth, a secretive Christian sect.

Judge Brandt Shortland told Easton the level of his offending was “unprecedented”.

“It was very serious offending over a long period of time. The aggravating features are clear, the premeditation, the vulnerability of the young people, the absolute betrayal of trust of…children of people who looked up to you, that admired you, that respected you, because of your position in your church.”

Judge Shortland said the fact there were six victims and the offending happened consistently over many years indicated how serious it was.

Easton’s offending spanned four decades and took place around the country, involving six victims who were boys at the time. The youngest was seven.

“The predatory nature that was consistent over a long period of time and the consistency of the offending can’t be overlooked,” Judge Shortland said.

He said there was a clear power imbalance, so much so that one of the survivor’s parents did not believe them when they disclosed the abuse because of the position Easton held.

After the sentencing, the police’s lead investigator for the prosecution Detective Constable Mark Reid acknowledged the victims and their families and the ordeal they have been through.

“While the man responsible for the offending has been sentenced, police understand that no conviction will ever take back what has happened,” he said.

“He was a well-known figure in his community for many years and in continual contact with children and young people.”

Easton’s lawyer Doug Blaikie said his client acknowledged the victims and the harm his offending had caused.

He read out Easton’s apology letter in court, which said he had “deep and heartfelt regret” for his actions that caused harm he now understood.

“I can never forgive myself for this; all I can say is I’m sincerely sorry. Every day I face remorse and regret…and now face the consequences.

“I know my actions were wrong but I failed to acknowledge and understand how wrong.”

Blaikie said Easton’s offending occurred in the context of a young man growing up in a church and society that regarded homosexuality as “deviant”.

He said Easton left the position of minister of the church in his early 20s because he could see his actions were not consistent with the church’s teachings.

Blaikie said he sought counselling from the church which “today would be regarded as totally inappropriate” because Easton was advised in strong terms to marry quickly and start a family.

William Stephen Easton during an earlier court appearance. Photo: RNZ/Peter de Graaf

Easton was emotionally conflicted as a person of homosexual disposition but that did not excuse his behaviour.

“There was clearly a power imbalance between Mr Easton and all of his victims and he exploited that power imbalance for his own sexual gratification.”

Judge Shortland acknowledged his guilty plea and letter of apology.

“There’s nothing mitigating about this offending. In many respects there was no other place but to be honest about what has been said and I appreciate that.”

‘It has caused me emotional harm for most of my life’ – survivor

It was a harrowing morning in court for the six victims and their families, as four victim impact statements were heard – all chose not to read these aloud themselves.

Before the victim statements were read, Judge Shortland said this would be an emotional day and difficult for many.

For much of the sentencing, Easton sat with his head in his hands.

One survivor who is now in his 70s said he had been abused by Easton from the age of 12 at his parents’ home.

“My relationship to the offender was no more than that he was a minister of religion who often stayed in my childhood home where he was held in high regard by my parents,” said his statement.

“I told my parents but they did not believe me, instead accusing me of telling dreadful lies of this highly revered young man.”

The survivor said the sexual abuse had taken away his innocence and left him imprisoned by memories for 50 years.

He said he constantly required company, otherwise, he was tormented by flashbacks and became suicidal.

“I fear how this may have ended up if the authorities and other victims hadn’t helped us bring Bill to justice.”

Another survivor whose statement was read in court said he was 22 years old when Easton sexually abused him nearly 50 years ago and it had burdened him ever since.

“It has caused me emotional harm for most of my life with some days being worse than others.”

Easton was a person of trust whom he looked up to and should have known better.

Another survivor, now in his 50s, said he was a young high school student when Easton offered him a school holiday job that he was initially pleased about.

But he said that “quickly turned to fear and anxiety” when he realised Easton had taken him to an isolated area to sexually abuse him.

“What possessed you to take advantage of a young vulnerable boy with realistically nowhere to escape to?”

The survivor said from that time forward his life changed, he self-harmed and tried to run away from home to escape the abuse which continued for two and a half years.

He said he feared he may have contracted AIDS and for the following decade, would donate blood so that it would be tested.

He disclosed the abuse to police in September 2023.

“Explaining what you had done to me was hard. Hard to relive those experiences, but not hard to provide facts, when, where, what. I can never forget what you did to me.”

The survivor said he was open to restorative justice in the future.

Another survivor, in his 60s, said he was a young, shy, naive 15 year old when Easton sexually abused him.

“You were a member of our church ministry and had just been released from duty. As children we were taught to respect, trust and look up to our church ministers,” his statement said.

“You began taking an interest in me, taking me for drives in your vehicle…it was at this time that the abuse started.”

The survivor said he did not disclose the abuse at the time and still got flashbacks when he felt “abhorrent” about what happened to him and that had affected his ability to form close friendships.

“I feel that you have taken advantage of my naivety when I was young, when I was learning to find my own way in life. Instead you took away my ability to trust others.”

The offender and the sect

Easton was a minister of the Two by Twos, also known as The Truth, an underground Christian sect, from 1966 until he was removed from the group’s leadership in 1976.

However, insiders have told RNZ that Easton remained part of the group, attending meetings in members’ homes, until last year.

He was also listed until recently as a real estate agent on the Harcourts Bay of Islands website.

In September its director, Scott Cousins, said Easton was no longer with the company.

“Bill Easton advised us of the historic charges against him, which occurred prior to his association with our company. He immediately left our organisation. We were shocked and appalled by these charges and this remains the case,” he said.

Easton was arrested as part of an investigation into accusations of sex offending by members of the Two by Twos.

The group is being investigated by the FBI.

Police initially charged him with 17 indecent assault and sexual violation offences that occurred between 1964 and 1981, involving four victims.

A further 38 charges were laid in September relating to two more victims.

The Two by Twos have about 2500 members and 60 ministers in New Zealand.

It is not registered as a charity and had no official name or church buildings.

A hallmark of the group is that its itinerant ministers travel in pairs and stay in members’ homes.

Where to get help:

Need to Talk? Free call or text 1737 any time to speak to a trained counsellor, for any reason.

Lifeline: 0800 543 354 or text HELP to 4357

Suicide Crisis Helpline: 0508 828 865 / 0508 TAUTOKO (24/7). This is a service for people who may be thinking about suicide, or those who are concerned about family or friends.

Depression Helpline: 0800 111 757 (24/7) or text 4202

Samaritans: 0800 726 666 (24/7)

Youthline: 0800 376 633 (24/7) or free text 234 or email talk@youthline.co.nz

What’s Up: free counselling for 5 to 19 years old, online chat 11am-10.30pm 7days/week or free phone 0800 WHATSUP / 0800 9428 787 11am-11pm

Asian Family Services: 0800 862 342 Monday to Friday 9am to 8pm or text 832 Monday to Friday 9am – 5pm. Languages spoken: Mandarin, Cantonese, Korean, Vietnamese, Thai, Japanese, Hindi, Gujarati, Marathi and English.

Rural Support Trust Helpline: 0800 787 254

Healthline: 0800 611 116

Rainbow Youth: (09) 376 4155

OUTLine: 0800 688 5463 (6pm-9pm)

If it is an emergency and you feel like you or someone else is at risk, call 111.

Sexual Violence

NZ Police

Victim Support 0800 842 846

Rape Crisis 0800 88 33 00

Rape Prevention Education

Empowerment Trust

HELP Call 24/7 (Auckland): 09 623 1700, (Wellington): 04 801 6655 – push 0 at the menu

Safe to talk: a 24/7 confidential helpline for survivors, support people and those with harmful sexual behaviour: 0800044334

Male Survivors Aotearoa

Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests (SNAP) 022 344 0496