Author: wingsfortruth2

David Wesley Carter (born 1968) was convicted in 2004 of a 1998 Child Molestation offence in Chatham GA and sentenced to imprisonment for five years.

See https://www.orlandosentinel.com/2001/06/08/indictment-claims-man-used-net-to-entice-girl-2/

Carter had developed a relationship with a 12 year old girl on the internet and had also driven to Florida several times to molest the girl. Her parents found out when they received a call from a flower shop who were arranging delivery of 12 yellow roses to the 12 year old.

Carter had been a police dispatcher with the campus police department of the Savannah-Chatham County Public Schools.

WINGS Note: Updated July 11, 2023.

He has been going to meeting in Eden NC and attending Denton NC convention.

He is on the North Carolina Sex Offender Registry as a result of the out-of-state conviction.

Carter was removed from all meetings in North Carolina on July 10, 2023. Families who attended meetings with David were notified of the reason for his removal, and one person was asked by his workers to provide a public announcement for the purposes of reaching current and former members of the church who may have met with David in the past. Please share this with anyone you may know who has attended meetings near Savannah, Georgia and Eden, North Carolina.

To Elders: This letter is meant for all members of our fellowship. We ask that you share it with your meeting. Our email address may also be shared in case any wish to communicate with us directly. Thank you for facilitating this important conversation.

Dear Friends,

As hosts of the Seneca Convention, we wish to communicate about the current situation as our preps and convention are fast approaching. 

The problem: Over the past months, there has been an alarming number of reports of Child Sexual Abuse (CSA) and Sexual Abuse (SA) within our fellowship. Some of these are about recent abuses, while others are speaking up about abuses of years ago. The reports are coming in from ALL OVER the United States, Canada, and around the world.  SOME of the stories are about abuses occurring at conventions.

How do we, collectively, promote a safe and spiritually uplifting experience?  

On the topic of safety, while the property belongs to the Fisks, the Seneca Convention belongs to all of the people of this fellowship.  Every concerned person (and who isn’t concerned?!!) can be committed, as we are, to taking the necessary steps to make the convention as safe as possible for every person, especially our children. This is not a situation for which “someone else” should take responsibility. Each one, every one, must take responsibility for and be invested in the safekeeping of our children.  Think “neighborhood watch”!

We are very thankful for each one who is speaking up, educating themselves and others, finding solutions, and committed to being part of the solution, committed to making the obviously necessary and significant changes to provide safe gatherings.  One part of the solution is a zero-tolerance approach to any CSA/SA behavior on our property. Any allegation will be taken seriously and acted on accordingly. And any known person with allegations about them will be requested to leave.

We are looking forward to, praying for, and hopeful of having a spiritually uplifting convention.  If there are any who are reluctant to attend, that is also understandable, and we support your decision. 

If any have questions or concerns, please feel free to contact us:  [redacted]

Sincerely,

The Fisks

PS. from Kyle: Having experienced CSA myself, I have personal experience with what it takes to be healed.  If any would like to talk about it with me, I am readily available for that conversation, too.

From Dawn

Difficult things are hard to go through, hard to share and hard to explain. Each victim is at different stages. There’s fear, we’re fragile, we hurt, we’re angry at times, we want hope. My name is Dawn Magsam from Wisconsin.

I’ve waited to write this. I’ve waited to share with many. Some do know my story. Others I’ve wanted to share for a long time but have waited for God’s timing. I feel my story, my healing through much pain and sorrow can and could help another. My hope is to give hope and show grace to others. That has been my wish everyday for myself and for all.

Statistics are high. There are many more victims that are not ready to share. Be gentle and kind. Possibly some are showing unkindness, looking the other way. Maybe they too are ones not yet ready to deal with their own pain.

My mother passed away 6 years ago. A few months later my box broke in my mind and my heart broke too. Things I had greatly suppressed I relived again. My loving immediate family and a few close ones have been so supportive, along with healing time and professional help that I still need to continue with today.

My mother married Bob Muller when I was 7. The abuse by Bob started before they were married and continued until I was 16. In a family setting with sexual abuse there is also emotional and narcissism abuse. I am from a lineage of 6 generations of sexual abuse. But it stops with me. I did not abuse my children, thankfully I have a loving supportive husband that is not an abuser. I knew enough to protect my children but still such confusion, twisted emotionally when keeping that relationship with the abuser until these last few years. So difficult to comprehend let alone explain.

Recently I have requested that Bob no longer attend any meetings. My request was listened to. Thank you from myself and others. It is very very traumatizing to be in meetings with an abuser or know they are there.

This was brought to his meeting and the workers 4 1/2 years ago. I do not bring this attention to them at this time. Today, we all need to do better and have grace together. We have so much to gain if we can do this. Yes we need to hurt, but when ready we need to choose to heal. I know everyone has a right to how they feel in their experience. Please know this is just how I feel in mine.

Because of where I’m at in my healing I feel strong. But also fragile and weak at times. Others’ experiences I can so relate to. As hard as they are to read we cry, we hurt and are angry, and we hopefully heal a little more. There is more I can share of my experience when it can be helpful. We can heal and we are worth it, but again it takes time. God is real and helps us too.

Hold space for each other. You don’t have to have words. Just hold space and let them know it when you can. I myself have not reached out to so many I think of during my healing time. But I think of you. I’m there for you in my heart.

When you are ready, reach out to a professional. When I was ready, the right ones were available for me. We each might heal in a different way, different format. Believe in that, you are worth it and I am too.

I now have grandchildren that are the future. Our children and their spouses are also a part of the future, so are we. I hope to be one of the strong, gracious examples they and others need. And I hope for many more around them. And all precious children. God can help us be that.

I believe you, I hold space for you. I hurt with you, and I hope for you.

All have my permission to share this post. I do not reply on Facebook at this time. I am starting to send this out to some. Please know if you did not get this from me directly you have been thought of.

Date: July 9, 2023 at 23:13:09 EDT
To: NC/VA/MD/DE
Subject: Notice regarding Loren Spellman

Dear NC/VA/MD/DE Friends,

I’m reaching out to you regarding Loren Spellman, who is no longer in the work.

Over the past few weeks friends and workers shared with me experiences regarding Loren’s behavior which crossed boundaries of appropriate conduct pertaining to women. In recent hours we received a credible allegation of CSA made by an adult living outside of our region about contact that occurred while she was a child. 

I am very sorry for everyone who has experienced hurt and discomfort as a result of Loren’s actions.

Loren is not to attend meetings at this time.

If you, your children, or anyone else has had any interactions with Loren or anyone else constituting CSA or SA, please contact the local authorities.

If you have any questions or concerns please do not hesitate to reach out to me or any of the workers.

Your brother,

Jim Holt

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WINGS Note: Loren was in the work for over 40 years, laboring in Kansas, Colorado, Iowa, Nebraska, Tennessee, Pennsylania, New Jersey, Delaware, Virginia, North Carolina, West Virginia, Maryland and South Carolina.

Introduction by the group “Connected and Concerned Friends”

A week ago, we received the attached letter from a worker who viewed the Connected and Concerned Friend’s forum. The writer’s intention was to post it publicly, but we have chosen to protect their identity.

While this letter is written by one individual, we believe it represents the views of enough people in the ministry to warrant a response. We appreciate that this letter gives us another opportunity to explain the purpose of this community. This forum was created to keep individuals informed, connected, and working toward positive change within the fellowship, specifically in response to the crisis of child and adult sexual abuse. In all of this, the goal is to uphold Jesus and support the healthy examination of traditions. Our effort isn’t about making Jesus less, it’s about making Him everything, as in Him there is no abuse, deceit, or harm.

Genuine faith in Jesus is not fragile and will stand up to questions, discomfort, and introspection. We believe that our fellowship will be strengthened (not weakened) by healthy examination, transparent communication, acknowledgment of wrong, and by advocating for meaningful policies and the lawful response to crimes.  

We have attached the original letter (name redacted) and have also included our response to that letter directly below this introduction. Our team wants to acknowledge and thank the many workers and friends who are showing compassion, wisdom, and courage in our current crisis. As always, we appreciate your respectful comments and thank you for continuing to adhere to our Code of Conduct.

From the Connected and Concerned Friends Hosts

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CONNECTED AND CONCERNED FRIENDS RESPONSE TO LETTER

Prior to our point by point response below, one of our hosts wrote this after reading this worker’s letter to us, and we wish to include this in our opening:

Friends,

I recently returned from a camping trip to the North Shore of Minnesota.  As my husband and I pulled into our camping spot for the night, I received the aforementioned letter. I read it quickly before setting up camp and tried pushing the thoughts of it away so I was able to focus on my family. But that night as I pondered the letter and stared into the flames of our campfire, I was wondering how Moses knew that the bush was burning but not being consumed. It’s easy enough to see that a bush is on fire, but possibly harder to realize that it isn’t burning away.  When I was watching those logs, it was pretty obvious that the only way he knew they weren’t burning up, is if he stopped and studied their unwithering leaves with curiosity. Only then did God speak to Moses out of the bush and show him the plan for saving Israel out of Egypt.  

Why do I mention this?  Because for the last several months there have been many in our fellowship who have viewed our current situation with panic.  Friends and workers alike have tried with all of their might to put out the fire and return everything to “normal”.  The woeful part of this response is that they are not beholding the church with wonder and seeing that while it is currently engulfed with flames, it isn’t consumed.  They are not looking at individuals who feel righteous anger and genuinely marvelling that their faith in Jesus isn’t consumed.  That although their trust in the system is completely shattered – that their desire to have fellowship isn’t consumed.  That although their lifelong dreams of raising children in a seemingly idyllic tradition has crumbled – that their trust in a glorious God isn’t consumed.  That although they’ve borne abuse and neglect – that their hope in a righteous God isn’t consumed.  How can people be so thoroughly encompassed with fire, yet not consumed?  It is because God is in it.  

We are collectively a burning bush – completely encompassed with righteous anger – yet not consumed with despair because our faith is in the Living God.  How can we speak of such horrifying crimes, such disgusting abuse of power, such wretched deceit, and still believe that there is beauty to attain to?  Because we are burning, but not consumed. We ask that our fellowship stop trying to quench the righteous fire, and instead marvel that God is in His people.  

So, how do we marvel at a church that is completely engulfed and not rush to quench it?  This is how: we listen to people.  We validate their broken trust.  We learn from the most vulnerable, whose voices had long ago been silenced.  We reach out our shaking and weary hands to other hurting people. We focus on Jesus – the glorious and mighty Savior, and lay aside any falsehood that man or form is the answer to our salvation. And this is the point of our effort: to marvel at the church that should be destroyed, but somehow in its people, there’s a kernel of genuine faith still very much alive.

A few weeks ago I was talking to a worker in my state.  On this day they confided in me that it was hard to take criticism from individuals who are encompassed with righteous anger even though there is shared urgency.  I said “I’ll stand in the gap for you.” I wasn’t sure what that would look like, but I was genuine in my offer to take some of the heat. Shortly after, I was asked to be a host on this platform and I very much see myself in that place.  Standing in the gap.  Taking the heat of emotion and betrayal and distrust from a church in flames. Taking some of the heat and channelling those emotions into a more productive avenue of activism. All so that maybe, just maybe, we can have a stronger and healthier fellowship when the smoke clears.

RESPONSE TO WORKER’s LETTER

The below text is a combination of documents. For ease of reading:

Black Text: One worker’s thoughts and concerns.

Green Text: Our team’s answer to their concerns/questions.

Blue Text: Copied sections of the Encouraging Thoughts letter.

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Dear Connected and Concerned Friends,

I have some questions and suggestions for this group (5 main questions, 5 main suggestions, 5 pages). There are many in this group that I know, love, and respect. I don’t want them to be taken up in something that is evil and against the will of God. 

I sure don’t feel like I have all the answers and some of the things I say here could be totally wrong! Please forgive any of my misunderstandings. Thanks for giving me a safe place to share my feelings. Please consider and help me to be assured that this group is on the track:

QUESTIONS

1) What is the purpose of this group? The purpose of our platform is to advocate for meaningful change within the fellowship we love, by focusing on Jesus instead of tradition.

2) Where do you get your information?   The letters from workers are shared by members who get that information from their staff. CSA/SA news is typically received from the workers, personal accounts, or AFTT and Wings. 

3) Why are you doing what you are doing? As stated above, our mission is to advocate for meaningful change within the fellowship (particularly CSA/SA and root causes of abuse).

4) Who started this group? This forum started as encouraging texts between friends and acquaintances.  Shane and Devon developed an app to keep our conversations going in a more organized way. The rest of the team followed shortly after to share concerns, hope, and possible solutions. 

5) What is the end goal of this group? Our team would love it if this community conversation led to a furthering of cooperation between the ministry and friends.  Through cooperation we desire to enact changes that address CSA/SA abuse, root causes, communication, and a refocusing of the fellowship on Jesus instead of tradition.  

SUGGESTIONS

1) Don’t Go Too Far

Sometimes a strong reaction is necessary. An extreme overreaction is never the answer. When you are driving you might get very close to the edge of the road. There is a real and significant danger. Does that mean you should jerk the wheel as hard and fast as you can away from the edge? You will probably roll the vehicle and get yourself and those riding with you killed or seriously injured. We are aware that the issue of child sexual abuse, sexual abuse in all its forms, is a very serious issue. The danger is real. Does that warrant an extreme overreaction? Emotions can cloud judgment. Emotions are high. Enemies of God and His people have been given great occasion to blaspheme. Old wounds have been torn open again. We can’t let all of that cloud our vision. We shouldn’t make hasty decisions. We must be sure they are the right ones. It is good that some have been outspoken about the issue for the sake of those who have suffered abuse and for the sake of our fellowship. I fear some might take liberties they shouldn’t. Even if we are the victims of abuse or feel we should defend those who are or could be in danger of being, it gives us NO right to: slander, harass, spread lies, falsely accuse, try to change the perfect way God has made, become self-righteous, or many other ways we could err.

We agree that no one should be spreading lies, slandering, or harassing anyone on the platform. Our Code of Conduct is clearly stated and we have a team of 13 people (currently) who monitor posts and comments in real time.  An urgent and bold stance on CSA/SA and the examination of root causes is not an overreaction. 

2) Be Realistic

Many have been hurt. Some assert that we need to “make sure this never happens again!” That is impossible. We can’t eliminate all risks. We would have to be all-knowing, all-powerful, and supervise everyone 24/7 so we could intervene when they are about to make an error. Even with our best of efforts and protocols, if people are involved, there will be risk. Should we put cameras in all of the families’ homes? Should we put GPS trackers on everybody? Should we live in communes with glass walls so everybody is always supervised? Don’t let your emotions trump reason.

The traditions of our fellowship (particularly focusing on form/outward appearance, imbalance of power, and not wanting to “gossip”, etc.) have created a culture that allows perpetrators to operate with ease. No one is saying we should have cameras and GPS trackers. There are solutions that have proven effective at reducing abuse and we are advocating for those policies.  (Zero-tolerance policies, prevention strategies, education, third party investigation of accusations, balance of power, transparency, communication, etc.)

3) Be Patient

People often urge us to “Do Something!”. It is said that caution is the greater part of wisdom. We are wise to be cautious. We are dealing with very serious issues and pressure to act can build rapidly. The immediate reaction is not always the best one.

We understand that policy changes, nationwide consistency, and the rebuilding of trust will take time.  But patience is not the same as passivity. We hold patience for the process of meaningful changes, but we do not have patience for inaction and half-hearted attempts. 

4) Remember The Goal

I understand Connected and Concerned Friends to be a group wanting to help us address the issue of sexual abuse. Is it? I would hate for it to become:
– A hate group against God, His people, and His ministry.
– A group that uses the issue of sexual abuse as a weapon to advance its own personal agenda.
It would be shameful to use those who have suffered abuse to try and impose warped human ideas on the people of God.

CCF has always been about encouraging healthy and much needed change within the fellowship. There is no hidden agenda. Our fellowship will be strengthened (not weakened) by healthy examination, transparent communication, acknowledgment of wrong, and by advocating for meaningful policies and the lawful response to crimes. 

5) Retract and Revise the ‘SupportiveLetterToTheWorkers’.
I hope whoever put this letter together had good intentions. It seems full of misunderstanding. I found it alarming and offensive. It reflects very badly on the Connected and Concerned Friends group and perhaps completely misrepresents the opinions of the members. Here are my feelings and concerns:
“To the workers advocating for change”
Please explain ‘change’. What kind of change are you looking for? Do you want better understanding of and action in dealing with the sexual abuse issue? That is a reasonable and much-needed change. Do you want to make the way of God and His ministry into what you want it to be in your human thinking? That never goes well. Read Numbers 16 for one example.

The letter you are referencing is a compilation of messages from members. This was a collaborative effort with no single author. The letter was sent by individuals who wanted to encourage their workers to listen and advocate for change. The change we are advocating for is an appropriate response to CSA/SA (which includes: prevention, education, third party investigation of accusations, balance of power, transparency and communication.)

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Reminder:

Blue text: Encouraging Thoughts letter (written by multiple individuals)

Black text: One worker’s thoughts.

Green Text: Our team’s response.

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“We see you. We appreciate you. We care for you. We are so thankful for your continuous effort to restore trust and to create a safer community. We need you. We can’t imagine how tremendously difficult it is for you right now. You’re hearing the desperate cries just as we are. You’re processing the layers of betrayal and distrust just as we are. You’re realizing how you’ve contributed to a silent and unsafe community, just as we are.”

You are very quick to focus on the ministry, perhaps putting all blame on the ministry, but what about your part in contributing to a silent and unsafe community? Is it not more likely that all of us: Workers, Friends, parents, siblings, everybody, have had a lack of knowledge and action that has contributed to problems with sexual abuse?

We agree that there is need for everyone to be more thoroughly educated on CSA/SA and that a balance of power between friends and ministry would be a healthy and overdue change. However, recent revelations have shown that our system of ministry is especially conducive to these types of abuse. Despite parent’s best efforts to keep children safe in their own homes and meetings, these abuses have continued to happen by authority figures (with the majority of those accusations involving workers).  We are not “blaming” workers, we are observing that the patterns of abuse are particularly potent in our ministry. Part of our contribution to a safer community involves addressing the reason that these abuses are prevalent in the first place. Unfortunately, most efforts of addressing the systemic patterns of abuse have garnered little response or action from the ministry. We are willing to collaborate on this issue with friends and workers alike. 

“There seems to be an expectation for you to suddenly get everything perfectly right without proper training. While you’re still hurting. Sometimes your heartfelt, best-intentioned words are attacked, your intentions misinterpreted.”

Those in this group don’t seem to have any qualms about attacking and misinterpreting others, attacking and misinterpreting the ministry especially.

This was a statement from a member who seems to be expressing their understanding that there is a lot of expectation put on the workers. This statement was meant to convey compassion for the workers, not to attack the ministry. In terms of attacking language on our platform, our Code of Conduct clearly states that people in our community must share their feelings in a respectful way, and we have a team of moderators to hold that standard. We understand that you and others may feel uncomfortable reading certain comments, simply because of the nature of the topics we are discussing. If you feel like people are misunderstanding you, we encourage you to engage in a respectful conversation with them and explain your point of view. 

“We see you trying, and for that we are so thankful. We want to encourage you to keep fighting, keep working for justice, for safety, for the victim-survivors, for the women, children, and men in the fellowship. It’s ok if it’s not perfect from the first try. We often learn best from the act of trying. We promise to do our best to be gracious and understanding with our feedback.”

Thanks for this. We in the ministry need a lot of help and support and correction. I read many of the comments on the Connected and Concerned Friends site that give me the feeling of underlying resentment of the ministry. Can such a group adequately support the ministry in its efforts?

There is certainly a feeling of distrust and scepticism toward the workers by some of the friends. These feelings are a natural response to repeatedly witnessing victim stories being ignored, belittled, covered up, and dismissed by members of the ministry. In terms of our platform supporting the ministry, we believe that giving the community a place to share those feelings is how we begin the process of healing trust.

While all of this is going on, you’re expected to maintain your position and routine in the ministry – continuing to visit homes, continuing gospel meetings and conventions, continuing to “be there” for everyone around you – while you’re struggling to process everything yourself.

I’m glad you understand this.

We do, and we appreciate how exhausting this process is for everyone involved. 

“The ministry you’ve given your life to has betrayed you. Your companions, your overseers, those you’ve looked to for guidance, those you’ve confided in.”

The ministry has betrayed us? Really? That is an appalling accusation and misunderstanding. Some of our Friends have made very bad choices that hurt others. Do we say, “Our fellowship and Friends have betrayed us!”? No, it is INDIVIDUALS who have betrayed us.

I believe the betrayal that this member is referring to is the system of how our ministry operates (hierarchy, lack of transparency, no legal recourse) that has led to a culture where these crimes are able to happen and go unchecked. 

“And yet, you continue to have a love for the ministry, a love for souls. And that’s why you keep fighting. You know God is still reigning, that God is righteous in His judgment and cares so deeply for the victim-survivors you’re fighting for.”

I agree God still reigns, is righteous in His judgment, and cares deeply for all hurt by abuse. You’re not sure how much longer your boss is going to be in his position. And yet you feel compelled to continue under his direction. There are so many conflicting commands surrounding you: from the concerned, from the victim-survivors, from the young workers, from the head workers, from those asking you to be silent.” Who is ‘our boss’? Do you mean the overseer(s)? The overseer of the state I’m in is not my boss. He doesn’t think he is and he doesn’t want to be! This statement is a total misrepresentation of the ministry and overseers. I have spent a lot of time with several overseers. Sure, some overseers have done wrong and haven’t been true to their calling. Does that make the rest of them wrong? Did Judas’s failure make the rest of the apostles wrong? Did they need to totally reform the ministry because he fell? You seem to misunderstand the role of an overseer. An overseer isn’t the one who ‘makes all the decisions’ and ‘has absolute authority’, though he certainly gets blamed for decisions if people don’t like them! It is not a position we covet for personal gain. Sisters and brothers aren’t standing in line to become overseers. The burdens and responsibilities are great. The pressure is great. The criticism is great as Connected and Concerned Friends and other groups undeniably prove. It is horrible that you would disrespect overseers as a whole, men who are giving their lives and are willing to fill such a difficult role.

We do not disrespect overseers as a whole, but the characterization that overseers do not have the authority is not true. We need a culture of introspection that examines this hierarchy so that a multitude of diverse perspectives can help guide the fellowship forward. 

We in the ministry, overseers included, are servants working together. We are subject to God, each other, and the needs of all. God is our boss and He will be in power forever. It is appalling to say that someone else is ‘our boss’.

This was a comment from a member, and the term “boss” was an unfortunate choice.  I think we can understand that this person was referring to the very obvious fact that the overseer holds some authority over other workers. Just like all of us have a natural boss at work, your overseer is yours. They are the ones who assign what field you preach in, which companion you will be with, where to go for convention preparations, etc. Again, the word that this individual chose wasn’t helpful, but it also wasn’t inaccurate.  

“We encourage you to continue to listen to the voice that matters the most: our Heavenly Father’s. And while we long to be an encouragement and support to you, we know that He is the greatest source of comfort, hope, and support for you, as well as us.” 

That’s good advice! This letter seems like poisoned honey; there are some good thoughts, but also many that are toxic.

An encouragement to examine root causes and traditions may be uncomfortable, but it is not toxic.

“And here are some words of encouragement that folks from our group (a group of nearly 1400 friends supporting you)”

Our group. I thought we were the family of God and all in this together. Why do you need to organize into a special group? Whenever people organize in such a way, it typically doesn’t lead to good things. They feed on each other’s anger and misunderstanding and feel empowered to go beyond what is true, right, decent, and acceptable. Mob mentality enters into the picture. I hope this group hasn’t become or doesn’t become a hate group against workers, against God, and against His people.

Again, this forum is moderated and held to the standard of our Code of Conduct. This forum hopes to encourage change from within the fellowship, not form a hate group outside of it.  In terms of organizing, Human beings naturally organize. Conventions, meetings, worker state staffs, and work days are other examples of ways that humans organize into groups of people.  Cultural bias is a genuine concern for any large group, including our fellowship as a whole, so we must be diligent to focus on Jesus. 

“Truth sets us free. Any delay in removing predators implies guilt or complicity. Survivors have waited decades, years to feel safe in fellowship. Thank you for ensuring meetings are a refuge, not a torture chamber.”

I can see the importance of dealing with predators wisely, which could involve conviction, removal from fellowship, whatever is appropriate. I can see the importance of being sensitive to those who have suffered abuse and not forcing them to be in company with a person(s) who would make them feel unsafe. I feel like supporting those who have suffered abuse is a critical issue in all that has happened lately.
However, this letter makes it seem like the two ways this group wants to accomplish this are:
1) Take control of the ministry. Untrue. We wish to work alongside workers in the ministry. 

2) Attack those who have been accused of sexual abuse. Perpetrators of sexual abuse must be handled by professionals. We have no desire to attack individuals, but discussing their actions may feel unsavory based on the nature of those crimes. 

There is a lot more to helping the problem than removing known predators and somehow reforming the ministry: Yes.  We must examine root causes. 

Removing known predators is important, but what about supporting those who have made mistakes and repented? Yes. Professionals can support perpetrators. We are not the judge of any person’s salvation, and their fellowship needs can be met in many ways outside of meeting. 

How do we keep children safe from those who we don’t know are sexual predators? Education, prevention systems (such as provided by GRACE organization), and meaningful no tolerance policies.

How do we balance trust and precaution?  Meaningful policies, transparency, and communication will result in both protection for children and an increase in trust. 

What about fostering love and having a conscience toward God, rather than police force and written policies? What about the unity of the Spirit rather than unity of political will? Love toward God motivates us to advocate for meaningful policies to protect our most vulnerable.  The Spirit will always move us to protect and serve one another.  

What about actually wanting God’s will to be done rather than our own? Jesus protected the vulnerable, defended the children, cared for the widows, and provided for the poor – the Will of God is very clearly in favor of protecting the vulnerable. 

What about teaching your children, while they are in a safe environment, how to keep safe when they are out in the world? Yes, parents have been doing this for generations. Ironically, parent’s feel that keeping their children safe in public situations is less difficult than keeping them safe from perpetrators in their meetings and homes.

What about making Jesus the priority in a family’s home? Of course.

What about maintaining a good spirit in the home? Of course.

I fear for the children whose parents are involved in a group that would have such tunnel vision and misunderstanding. What kind of spirit are those parents bringing into their home? A spirit of hate and disrespect for the ministry? A spirit of pride and self-righteousness? A spirit of scorn and vengeance? Hopefully nobody in this group has that kind of a spirit and I am simply misunderstanding where you are coming from. You really need to revise this letter if that is the case.

Being aware of problems isn’t the same as having a spirit of hatred.  The feeling of righteous anger is not the spirit of disrespect.  The feeling of urgency isn’t the spirit of pride.  When faced with such wretched crimes and deeds within our own fellowship, we absolutely should feel alert, angry, urgent, and motivated to do something. These are appropriate feelings to experience and help to teach our children the importance of valuing and helping the vulnerable.

“Jesus doesn’t change, but we must. For all of these years, we have not. Seems like we’ve focused more on Paul than on Jesus (more on appearance than the weightier matters). We completely support all of your efforts to be more like Jesus. We are trying to do the same.”

Where did this thought come from? Have you even read Acts and Paul’s letters? If that’s what we get from his life and teachings, we don’t understand Paul at all. Paul encouraged those he wrote to and labored among to focus on Jesus. He was focused on the weighty matters. Paul’s life and writings help us to focus on Jesus. If we began focusing on Paul, wouldn’t we realize he points us to Jesus as the One we should focus on? Of course, we as humans are prone to focusing on appearance rather than what is really important, but to say that Paul has led us astray to focus on appearance rather than the weighty matters is nonsense.

This comment from a member may have been well meaning, but we agree, does misunderstand Paul.

“We are here, “waiting in the wings” to help with anything we possibly can. To support you, to work with you, to facilitate the needed changes within our fellowship. Please don’t hesitate to reach out with anything we can do to be of help for the greater work currently happening.
Finally, if you are not ok, that is ok. There is support available, and it is ok to seek out that support. With a unified purpose for truth, honesty, and God’s will to be done, Connected & Concerned Friends”

Nice words, but I wish the rest of the letter gave me more confidence in the group. Based on other parts of the letter, if I needed help, I would certainly go elsewhere.

There are many resources available, and we encourage you to find help and support in the way that best serves you. 

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ANALYSIS OF LETTER BY A CCF GROUP PROFESSIONAL

When we are discussing issues as complex and vulnerable as child and adult sexual abuse within a church, a bilateral and ongoing conversation is ideal. It could be unwise to attempt to understand the heart and mind of a representative of the ministry based on this letter. Still, there are questions we might ask, things we might be curious about.

• “What is it you feel?” Despite using the word “feel” and “feeling” 8 times through this letter, the writer does not share with us what they are feeling. Relational communication includes vulnerability, the sharing of one’s own feelings and curiosity about the other’s feelings, thoughts, motives. Our Father and our older Brother, and the Holy Spirit, are fully expressive of their feelings, giving them words, and intensity, and value. We may have gender, ethnic, cultural, or familial reasons for discomfort with feelings, but our Creator does not.
• Despite not identifying their own feelings, the writer expresses significant mistrust, fear, and anger towards the leaders and participants in Connected and Concerned Friends, including fear of those involved forming a “hate group.” We could ask, “What is it that you most fear?”  When we are not in touch with our own fear, we are in danger of projecting unkind motives onto others, to misunderstanding others, to moving into extreme stances that make it more difficult to connect.
• “Who are you protecting?” While the writer states a wish to take appropriate action for the protection of victims of sexual abuse, the letter focuses on false allegations, dismantling or discrediting of the ministry, “extreme overreaction,” C&CF using sexual abuse as a Trojan horse for forum member’s personal agendas, the difficult and unrewarding role of overseer, and much more.
• “Is it ok for the ministry and friends to see things differently? Do you believe friends can have a personal connection to God, be led by the Holy Spirit, and have revelations from scripture?” Throughout the letter, while the author acknowledges that they don’t “have all the answers” and need to be forgiven for any “misunderstandings,” they also state they “don’t want [the members] to be taken up in something that is evil and against the will of God”, give strong warnings through a metaphor about driving too close to the edge of the road, urge the readers to “be realistic,” “be patient,” “remember the goal,” “retract and revise the letter to workers,” speak out against mob mentality, and 3 times opine that friends are forming a hate group and/or fostering a spirit of hate for the ministry.
• “What do you see as a better path forward?” Unfortunately, much of the letter is written using logical fallacies:
  • Slippery slope and straw man: The author states that the forum is working to “make sure [csa/sa] never happens again” (a straw man, as that is not the stated goal of the forum) and then attacks that with a slippery slope argument that things will go too far and we will end up using GPS trackers, video monitors in every home, and glass-wall communes.
  • False equivalence: In speaking of the role of overseers and the ministry, the author attempts to narrate the responsibility as belonging to “INDIVIDUALS” rather than accepting responsibility and accountability as one member of the larger ministry.
  • Straw man (again): By repeatedly accusing the forum of being a “hate group,” a group that is using child sexual abuse as a tool to advance its own personal agenda, and other hostile views, the writer has created their own license to discredit the group. (Note: It is unclear how the author believes 2000+ have come together non-anonymously to advance a destructive agenda against the ministry.)
  • Red herring: By focusing on the writer’s fears about the group, attention is taken away from the issue of child sexual abuse by ministers and friends; lack of meaningful repentance or acknowledgement from the ministry for its role; lack of transparency from the ministry about communication, decisions, overseer meetings; state or national policy; or law enforcement involvement.

While logical fallacies do not automatically destroy effective communication, they hinder it. The listener is left sorting through the illogic, confused and baffled by what is being communicated. The focus is taken away from the original concern. When reading this letter, the reader knows the routes the writer does not want to take but does not hear what the writer considers a better path forward.

• “What do you value?” The writer states their desire to deal with the issue of sexual abuse of children and adults, but most of the letter is focused on maintaining the `status quo, expressing negative thoughts about the believed intentions of forum members, and critiquing the content of the Letter to Workers.

Our concerns about this letter and ideas presented in it:

Our faith group has been long plagued by sexual abuse of children and adults, the hiding and enabling of that abuse, as well as lack of transparency or communication about the structure, power, and finances of the authorities: Overseers, workers, elders. While many have been suffering from the abuse for generations, some have become newly aware of the depth and breadth of the problem. People feel betrayed, deeply wounded, mistrustful, afraid, sick, devastated. It is in this climate that this worker’s letter was written and attempted to be publicly posted on Connected and Concerned Friends. (Sources, see CSA and SA News, WingsfortheTruth.info, AdvocatesfortheTruth.com)

Here is what a survivor might notice in this letter: 

(Please note: survivors will have a variety of responses, and all responses are valid, legitimate, and understandable. We do not speak for all survivors and encourage survivors to speak for themselves if they feel safe doing so)

• The writer offers no plan of action.
• The writer does not connect empathetically with survivors in any meaningful way, and it is not clear that the writer has attempted to understand the experience of sexual abuse of a child or adult. The writer lacks empathy or understanding and may benefit from reading survivor’s accounts of their abuse.
• The writer minimizes the ministry’s role in an apparent attempt to shift the shame and blame to “individuals” and friends. Rather than using their role in the ministry to accept blame, responsibility, and accountability for those who will not accept those things (as Jesus did for all of us), the survivor may see the writer distancing from all accountability and responsibility.
• The writer focuses on the possibility of false allegations and protection of perpetrators in the lines: “Attack those who have been accused of sexual abuse” and that we have no right to “…slander, harass, spread lies, falsely accuse, try to change the perfect way God has made, become self-righteous, or many other ways we could err.” From a survivor’s viewpoint, it is clear the author has strong suspicions that there are many false allegations. A survivor would likely not trust this writer to believe his or her experience of sexual abuse. The author will likely be seen as lacking in empathy to understand what it costs for a victim to come forward and speak their shameful story.
• While the writer states the ministry and friends should be united and not in separate groups, a survivor will also notice that they repeatedly defend the ministry, attack the friends, speak against false allegations, and do not offer meaningful protection for abuse survivors or prevention of further abuse.
• In reading the logical fallacies noted above, a survivor may feel characterized as hysterical, overreacting, disbelieved, unprotected, maligned, and suspected of being resentful, hateful, or rebellious…due to joining a community of friends who are finally boldly, consistently speaking out against violation, deceit, mismanaged power, oppressive traditions, and unlawfulness (both in committing crimes and then covering them up).
• In the author’s denial of the power of even the overseer, the survivor will understand that the writer either cannot see power and oppression or is so far unwilling to admit their existence, which is in itself a blindly privileged stance. The survivor may conclude that the writer is unwilling to use their power and privilege for the good of survivors but is instead committed to pretending it does not exist.

Here is how a survivor might feel upon reading this letter:

Hurt, confused, angry, betrayed, helpless, shocked, horrified, powerless, ashamed, withdrawn, mistrusting.

Closing comments:

• The ministry and the church are not equal and not the same parts of the body. The ministry needs to take responsibility for what they own, and the church does also. (see “differentiation,” “boundaries,” “authoritarian versus authoritative”)
• It is ok for one crisis to open a much larger conversation. People are trying to understand how sexual abuse of children and adults could have been a problem for as long as it has, and they are looking at all the possible factors. (see “systemic change” and “first- and second-order change”)
• Open discourse can be healthy. Truth, goodness, beauty, and truth can withstand the challenges of examination and discussion (see all the stories of Jesus talking about uncomfortable things; “open systems” versus “closed systems”).
• Relationships between people and parts of a church work better when both are willing to listen, truly, curiously, with an open heart and mind, and without suspicion. (see “reflective listening”).
• Due to the nature of this crisis, with ministry violating the church, repeatedly hiding that violation, and moving workers around, the onus of listening is on the ministry. It is problematic for the ministry to ask the church to tend to their needs for two reasons: The ministry has betrayed the church. The ministry is in a position of power over the church. (see Diane Langberg’s book Redeeming Power for a discussion of good use of power and authority).
• What a survivor may want to see instead are: 
  • Accountability
  • Transparency
  • Empathy and compassion
  • Respect for boundaries
  • Commitment to restoration and justice
  • Humility and willingness to seek outside help

To find a path forward, significant relational repair will be needed. Unfortunately, the thoughts and beliefs expressed in this letter do more to wound those harmed by sexual abuse and the church that is trying to protect them and prevent future abuse.

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*** NOTE*** CCF have received feedback to this letter. See the PDF below.

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The orignal letter from the worker to the CCF Group

Craig Winquist <cwinquist@aol.com> Thu, Jul 6, 2023 at 7:25 AM

Here is a follow up to the note we just put out. It will clarify Brad’s status in the work and help our friends realize they have to use their own judgement about Brad and the allegations. There is only so much that we can do for them. So you could send this to the elders but maybe it should go as a general email to the friends as well. I don’t know how well it gets sent around.

A brother, Craig

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Dear friends,

In the interest of a safer fellowship:

I need to send an update on Brad Holman’s status in the ministry. It doesn’t seem like the allegations are any less serious than when we first learned about them.

I want to make it clear that Brad is no longer in the work, and that decision will not be reconsidered unless there are some profound changes regarding the multiple allegations against him.

The only restriction we can place on him at this time is that he is not to be attending any meetings in person.

While the CSA allegations are serious, to our knowledge, he has not been charged with any criminal activity by legal authorities. As a result, he is free to travel, visit where he is welcome and work as he desires. We have no legal right to impose restrictions beyond limiting him from attending meetings.

We feel it prudent to remind our friends (especially families with children) that they need to be cautious considering the CSA allegations.

Wishing all the very best . . .

A brother, Craig

Dear Merlin, Paul, Reid, Joshua and Vancouver Field Elders,

Vancouver field elders, we have been made aware of how some of you feel about us by the workers in the Vancouver area, in both written and verbal communication. According to Merlin, Paul, Reid and Joshua, the characterizations made of us by some of you, precede the decision to remove our meeting. The workers informed us that some of you consider us as unworthy of the privilege of being an elder for several reasons, one specifically that we don’t possess the “qualities of an elder”. More specifically, some of you had this concern BEFORE the meeting was placed in our home, this according to a letter sent by Merlin to one of the friends.

It is also possible that you never actually did say anything negative about us but that this was fabricated, or was it the perspective of the workers as they shared with you their thoughts about us, and you simply agreed. A case of “the workers are always right”.

There is a trait in our fellowship that we have allowed to become the very nucleus of our worship, the direction of our faith – that the workers, no matter the circumstance, justification or even how outside of Doctrine their actions are that we will agree with them – that they are the actual embodiment of God’s will and voice at any time, place, or circumstance.

Below are facts:
It was brought to our attention that in late 2022 someone in our Sunday meeting twice asked Paul Chiu to add people to our meeting, especially since a couple from South Africa had moved to North Van, live close to us and have a teenage daughter similar in age to the other teenagers in the meeting. Paul declared to this person on one occasion (unbeknownst to us) that he “will not add people to the meeting because of Leonie’s hair”. The folks in our meeting were so upset about this that they didn’t feel they could share it with us, so we didn’t know anything about this until the first week in February when we were told about the perp coverups etc.

On Saturday February 11, 2023, Paul Chiu and Reid Goodkey came to our home for dinner. After dinner Paul announced that “they are balancing the meetings” and that our meeting (our family, B&V L family; M&H W family) is being split and sent to three other Sunday meetings in the Vancouver field as of March 5th. Jeremy said to Paul that we can accept the changes but that we feel it is unwise at this time given that some of our meeting folks were in so much pain due to recent issues and how they have been handled by the workers. Paul did not accept this. Jeremy gave Paul an opportunity to tell the truth: he asked him THREE times – Is balancing the meetings the complete and only reason for this change? Three times Paul answered “yes, that is the only reason”. Jeremy asked “are there any other reasons?”. Paul answered “no”. Jeremy then said “we know what you said about Leonie’s hair to someone in our meeting”. Paul replied: “yes I did say that, but this change has nothing to do with Leonie’s hair”. Again, Paul was asked more than once to confirm this to be the truth. He confirmed it to be the truth.

On Tuesday February 14 (or maybe Thurs February 16) both Ls and Ws met with Paul, Reid and Merlin about the CSA coverups going on, perpetrators allowed to come to meeting, sister workers quitting in droves and the decision to remove our meeting. Merlin was bluntly asked if the meeting decision had anything to do with Leonie’s hair. He categorically stated “no”. He even said “I have never said anything about Leonie’s hair, for all I know it is a health or allergy issue…”

Prior to March 5th both Ls and Ws wrote to the workers and advised them that they would continue coming to our home on Sunday and we have continued with the meeting – with very rich fellowship and the certain presence of the Spirit in each meeting. We texted B&K K about our decision to keep our meeting intact stating specifically we cannot go along with the deceitful way this was handled and the lies being told around it.

News of our meeting being removed travelled far and wide with people from three continents asking us how this can be and voicing their support. Many of these people have, without our knowledge or request, written to the workers about our meeting removal. Yet we have been falsely accused by the workers of “drumming up support”. Reid, by his own admission, even preached AT us about this in a Gospel Meeting. Not a Gospel message!

A few weeks ago, in a visit with an elderly couple in the Vancouver field Reid (accompanied by Joshua), told some egregious lies about us. As follows:

• we are “drumming up support” all over the place about the meeting decision;
• they have been trying to arrange a visit with us but we refuse to meet with them.

This couple is friends of ours and shared this with us, and so Reid was caught in a lie. We wrote a strongly worded letter on June 10, 2023 which you can read below the end of this letter. Reid then set up a meeting with us for Sunday June 18 after gospel meeting. We arranged to have two witnesses, H&M W, present. Reid and Joshua were the only workers present.

Reid apologized for telling lies about us “drumming up support” about the meeting removal and he also admitted that we had never refused to meet with them, and that we had actually invited them to come and visit us. He also admitted to and apologized for preaching AT us in a Gospel Meeting based on his own false assumptions. The matter of our meeting came up again and after his apology, Reid then provided the following reasons for our meeting being taken away:

1. We ENCOURAGE alcohol consumption. Encourage? NOTHING is further from the truth. The only thing is that we don’t hide the fact that we have wine in the house and offer it on occasion to guests. Leonie extremely rarely drinks alcohol. Titus 1: 6-9 is used as justification AND the “fact” that “someone” has raised the concern that we ENCOURAGE drinking. When we pushed back on this, Reid stated “well it was before my time here”. We asked for details, and Reid committed to provide the information to us. We are still waiting……..
2. Leonie has short hair – even though Reid admitted there is no doctrine to support the outward appearance rules that have become so entrenched in this fellowship. Please also remember that BOTH Paul and Merlin unequivocally stated that the meeting decision had NOTHING to do with Leonie’s hair! This also calls into question the validity/sincerity of Reid’s apology as he was present when both Paul and Merlin stated the meeting decision had nothing to do with Leonie’s hair.
3. AL didn’t approve of the meeting being placed in our home when he and J sold their home in West Van. Again, this is not true. A.. recently wrote to Merlin requesting (unbeknownst to us) that the meeting be officially reinstated and people be added. Would he have taken the time to write Merlin if he didn’t approve? Reid further said that “other elders” also didn’t approve of us getting a Sunday meeting at the time.
4. Our reaction (spirit) when we were told the meeting is being taken away. Think about this reason for a second: “we are taking your meeting away because of how you reacted when we told you we are taking your meeting away”……
5. Balancing the meeting numbers – this continues to remain untrue and illogical.
6. “Some elders” have voiced concerns about us. Did you have concerns? What are they?

At this meeting Reid also informed us that from now on we will not receive ANY communications from “the workers”, that we would have to look on social media etc. to avail ourselves of any current communication to the BC/Vancouver friends. Do the workers in the field communicate on social media?

Shortly after we were informed our meeting was being taken away, Bruer-gate erupted. You all know we did not keep quiet about this. When Merlin issued his letter about Bruer having been “immoral” (rather than “criminal”) we simply could not keep quiet and you received our first communication. Contrary to the convenient narrative of the workers our outrage was as a result of the treatment of many sister workers and of relaxed and unconcerned attitude of many workers towards child sexual abuse and sexual abuse being perpetrated by workers, elders and friends and being swept under the rug by overseers and others.

Our so-called “bad spirit” is nothing more than a righteous anger towards the people that make a mockery of the Doctrine of Christ and the dismal lack of empathy shown to innocent victims and others whose lives are or were often permanently and savagely scarred by workers and others who were implicitly trusted. Ours is a righteous anger toward the evil in God’s House. Outside of being a sexual predator, a common criminal or a murderer the most egregious thing a minister can be is a liar. Anyone who is a spiritual teacher, worker, minister or a person presenting themselves as a servant of God that goes and lies to their church is an abomination. Consider Revelations 22:15. It’s disturbing that people who say they are led by the Spirit see this happening in front of them and then simply accept it as God’s Truth. Is this not making God’s Truth a lie? If we know of evil and do not shun it, we are complicit. Plain and simple.

We plead with you to consider this, as hard as it may be:

1. The “Way” as we know it currently FAR exceeds the known sexual atrocities statistics per capita of the Catholic Church? We appear to be the WORST Christian group on the planet for hiding and allowing child sexual abuse and sexual abuse to continue by systematically not reporting offences to the authorities and by withholding the truth from the Friends to maintain a phony outward show.
2. The extent to which child sexual abuse and sexual abuse has come out against overseers, workers, elders and friends in North America and world-wide. Many overseers (past, present and dead), workers, and ex workers have been identified as alleged pedophiles, alleged sexual abusers or good old-fashioned fornicators while in the work. We suggest you visit the following reliable information sources:
   https://wingsfortruth.info/category/news/ and
   https://www.advocatesforthetruth.com/updates and
   https://www.advocatesforthetruth.com/open-cases .
3. Since March 2023 more than 500 perpetrators in this fellowship have been reported to Private Investigator Cynthia Liles.
4. The victim count is now in the thousands.
5. Many overseers either preyed on victims or covered up for predators.
6. The FBI is now involved as a result of the sheer magnitude of this problem. It is probably a matter of time before they involve their good neighbours, the RCMP.
7. Can you accept this? We cannot.

We know that reems and reems of letters to the fields and friends, apologies, policies, and the like are now seeing the light of day. It is a good thing, but much of it is simply too little too late. Many of the people writing letters, writing apologies, writing zero-tolerance policies, and conducting listening tours are the very ones that knew about the CSA and SA atrocities and either helped cover it all up or did nothing.

Have you ever felt hopeless to the point of utter despair because:

• You have ZERO prospect of waking up to a new day void of guilt and burden placed upon you by the actions of a person abusing the authority they claimed, and that made you feel like it was all your fault.
• Your parents and siblings judged you for having the gall to seek help and protection from a respected and idolized creep.
• Of feeling like everyone sees and judges you.
• You cannot calm the mind down that constantly reminds you of your tormentor.
• Your mind torments you that your family is constantly plotting against you.
• You just yearn to be free but deep down you know this torment is for life.
• Your life becomes one lived in the imagination, one of a life free of the torment. Each new day being a cruel reminder of the past.
• You constantly make unwise and rash decisions, always entertaining the possibility of a life that would be wholesome and kind, but always being disappointed.
• You live cumulatively for half your life drugged to a stupor by psychiatrists who never seemed to get it that you were abused and needed to be heard and healed.
• You were always a laughingstock of children and adults who poked fun at your ticks and odd mannerisms, the result of side effects of medically prescribed drugs.
• You see through the people that patronizingly speak to you as they would to a child or a pet because they consider you crazy and weird.

But all through this she never lost her faith in God. You have just read a little how it was for Jeremy’s dear mother thanks to being sexually assaulted at age nine by George Absalom (a most revered worker in South Africa) and thanks to parents and a fellowship so wrapped up in form that she, as a child entered a life void of hope of normality and eventually a life ruined and wracked by paranoid schizophrenia and the side effects of medication she was forced to take. Her story is far from unique.

You know who you are on this list that have said to us in the past “our blessing comes from being obedient to the workers even if we know they are wrong”. We strongly disagree. Take a moment to reflect on where that approach has taken us as a fellowship……

Your reaction to all this may be that “God knows all, and all will be just fine”. You are right, God does know all, and all will eventually be fine but right now there is wrong in the ministry and fellowship that is like a cancer. So, is this the time then to turn away and say:
I don’t need to know of this;
It doesn’t concern me;
The workers have this under control;
God will fix it, we just have to pray and have faith.
NO, IT IS NOT. Faith without works is DEAD.

The time for pretending all is fine is long gone.

Kind regards, Jeremy and Leonie

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Email sent June 10, 2023 at 9.52pm:

Dear Merlin,

This letter is also addressed to Reid, Paul and Joshua.

It has come to our attention that you are spreading the word that we are speaking to people to gather support for us having lost our Sunday meeting and asking them to speak up on our behalf. THIS IS NOT TRUE. We have NOT requested of ONE single person to reach out to any one of you with respect to our meeting being “taken away”. We encourage you to ask anyone that have written you about the removal of our meeting whether we had asked them to do so.

We continue with our Sunday meeting. Nothing to take away. We enjoy it when others attend our Sunday meeting on an ad-hoc basis to add to our number.

Note the following for the record:

1. With respect to our Sunday meeting, we have not gone looking for support from any person whatsoever.
2. Many people have however heard of the decision regarding our meeting and have reached out to US. Many of those people we have never even met before. Most of those people have shared with us their frustrations with the workers in BC and the mishandling of issues (see 3 below).
3. We have communicated the following concerns to you (as have many others):
4. Handling of CSA issues and suppression of transparency. (Why is there still no general notification of current CSA investigations in BC in order that victims be made aware. Also there has been no notification of members stepping down from Merlin’s CSA committee, why not?);
5. The unacceptable treatment, silencing and bullying of sister workers;
6. Overseers and workers’ abuse of power;
7. Suggested changes to restore trust and a healthy foundation for our fellowship.
8. We have communicated with friends regarding the manner in which you, as ministers in a position of trust have been conducting yourselves. One such issue is bold faced lying and below is a recent example:
9. Reid and Joshua, you have spoken to people this past week suggesting that you have been trying to arrange to meet with us and that we have not accepted this – HOW do you manage to lie so blatantly? You know that after Gospel Meeting when we greeted you at the door that we INVITED you to come to our place. Specifically, you Joshua. We were genuinely pleased to see you when you took Paul’s place with Reid and we specifically said to you after your first Gospel Meeting “thank you for a Gospel message today and please come and visit us anytime”. You know that we invited you directly more than once and you, Reid, know and heard that invitation after Gospel meeting. You have our cell phone numbers and email addresses and we have not received a single request to meet.
10. If anyone of you did send requests to meet with us and if we declined or if you did not receive a reply from us: please forward the time-stamped communication to us and everyone on this letter.

There have been meetings with concerned friends in BC where you are KNOWN to have LIED and be very clear: several people present in those meetings KNOW the truth. How do you expect the friends in our fellowship to have any trust in the ministry when you yourselves don’t follow the most basic Doctrine?

Merlin, we understand that communication was sent to elders recently regarding baptism arrangements. While we had heard of it, we never received any details. We then contacted Reid by text to ask if there were recent communications and were told there was communication about baptism, but without any details. We still have not received details from Reid or anyone else. This does beg the question whether you, Merlin, Paul, Joshua and Reid consider our children as unworthy of baptism? Interestingly, our text to Reid was recent and further evidence of how there has been ample opportunity for Reid and Joshua to make contact to meet with us.

Kind regards

Jeremy and Leonie Tomlinson

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WINGS Note: Certain family names have been anonymised:

B&V L family; Ls
M&H W family; Ws
AL; A…